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CounterAct electronic anti rust system?

HAN8L1965

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I just saw this item on a TV show, has anyone installed the CounterAct electronic anti rust system on their cars and will it work for a positive ground car, I couldn't find that out from their website. Cost seems to be about $350.00.

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It works fine as long as your car is submersed in water.
Just like the zinc piece on an outboard motor counteracts corrosion from the water it sits in.
BTW I have some beautiful ocean front property for sale in Kansas.
 

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I found their website; don't waste your time looking for it. It's complete crap. Those clowns don't know anything about either chemistry or electricity.

Yet another techno-crapola scam. File it along with those magnets that "change the chemical structure of gasoline" and double your gas mileage.
 

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A bridge anyone? :banana:
 

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Sarastro said:
I found their website; don't waste your time looking for it. It's complete crap. Those clowns don't know anything about either chemistry or electricity.

Yet another techno-crapola scam. File it along with those magnets that "change the chemical structure of gasoline" and double your gas mileage.

Or the nitrogen to replace the air in your tires? Just dumb idea's.
 

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Or the nitrogen to replace the air in your tires? Just dumb idea's.


There is nothing dumb about running nitrogen in tires. All the race car teams use it with great success.

I use a 78% nitrogen mix myself. Have great luck keeping the tires inflated with the stuff.
 
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fordtrucks4ever said:
DWeeB said:
Or the nitrogen to replace the air in your tires? Just dumb idea's.


There is nothing dumb about running nitrogen in tires. All the race car teams use it with great success.

I use a 78% nitrogen mix myself. Have great luck keeping the tires inflated with the stuff.

Most peole do have good luck with keeping their tires inflated with compressed air.....which is all "nitrogen" is, less moisture. That's all you get when you go pick up your bottle of nitrogen. You get REGUAR air, compressed into a cylinder minus the watervapor. All you're doing is buying dry air. Regular air, the stuff you're now breathing has a nitrogen content of 78%.

We once had a guy come into the Harley dealer I worked for selling snake oil treatment that removes 99% of the friction, We tried to explain that almost 100% of stock motorcycles have their oil submerged in oil.

"Yeah, it'll help the clutch work better cause it reduces the friction in it..." :rolleyes:
 

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fordtrucks4ever said:
DWeeB said:
Or the nitrogen to replace the air in your tires? Just dumb idea's.


There is nothing dumb about running nitrogen in tires. All the race car teams use it with great success.

I use a 78% nitrogen mix myself. Have great luck keeping the tires inflated with the stuff.

Yes, I do the same. To be precise, I like a mix of 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, and 1% argon. I think there are some minor other gas components in the stuff I use, carbon dioxide, neon, and so on.

I'll sell you all you need. I can get as much as you need and give you a really good price.
 

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Actually the Air Force does use (presumably 100%) nitrogen in the airplane tires.
The official line is that nitrogen doesn't expand as the tire heats-up and thus the pressure doesn't change (it is already 300PSI on our fighters) and they DO heat-up on landings, especially training tough & go's.
I don't know of too many Spridgets that have their tires catch on fire but pure nitrogen probably won't hurt and it is a fun conversation piece!
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Hay Steve, email me some. LOL
 

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That whole business of using 100% nitrogen in tires is a little strange to me. The reason I've been given is that the nitrogen diffuses through the tire more slowly than oxygen, the next largest component of air. I'm not sure that is true, but in any case it is only 21% of ordinary air, so even if it is, that can't be a huge effect. And, of course, tires are thick. I suspect that most loss of air pressure comes from leakage around the edges (in tubeless tires) and past the valve. I've noticed, for example, that tires with inner tubes lose pressure much more slowly than tubeless ones, but the increase if the tire thickness from adding a tube is minimal.

As for aircraft--there could be all kinds of reasons for using 100% nitrogen that might or might not apply to cars. The rise in pressure with temperature will be the same as for air, so I doubt that's it. Much more likely is that the rubber compound or other components have a problem with exposure to oxygen or water vapor--perhaps a concern for condensation inside the tire at low temperatures.
 
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Billm said:
Actually the Air Force does use (presumably 100%) nitrogen BillM

The compressor I use to fill my 3000psi paintball tank came off of a B-29. It's about the size of a big weed eater engine.
 
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Sarastro said:
That whole business of using 100% nitrogen in tires is a little strange to me. The rise in pressure with temperature will be the same as for air, so I doubt that's it. Much more likely is that the rubber compound or other components have a problem with exposure to oxygen or water vapor--perhaps a concern for condensation inside the tire at low temperatures.

I agree.

Hey, this is a great time to remind everyone to change the air in your tires at least ever six months or it gets stale. You especially do it when you rotate your tires to the other side of the car, lest you spin the air the wrong way. :jester:
 

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Oh my goodness, I haven't been doing that Kelly. Must get on it, can't have the backwards air, would slow me down considerablely. Not quite sure how I missed that, guess it is a senior moment. Thanks.
 

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WAIT Don't replace the air in your tires until you find a buyer for that NOS original air that came with your car when bought new.
Do you know how much NOS air is worth? Ask any concours guy what he would be willing to pay for "original" tire air!
 

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Of all the shifter karts I sold over the years, nitriogen was an absolute must in the tires. Using the standard 78% mix(air compressor) there would be a variation of 3 to 4 psi from ambient to operating temp in tires. Going to mitrogen there was less than 1 psi. Since the nascar guys adjust down to 1/4 psi increments, there is something to its use. Since most tire shops would normally have water filters, the small % of CO2 will still give noticable pressure variations.

One nite at the local races, there was a bunch of kids that run the jumior class bragging about using "nitro' like in their paintball guns. I had all of them really going with the "special mix" in my tires. One kid was especially book learned that was really wanting to know more details. He felt totally stupid when I explained what the blend was. I ask him if he paid attention in science. He said he didnt put the two together. Seems what you learn in school has no use in the real world.

Back when I was growing up the term "nitro" could be refering to nitroglycerin, nitromethane or nitrobenzene. Later it had some relevence to NOS, then to just nitrogen when paintball became popular. I guess whem you are out of the loop, you loose out.
 

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jlaird said:
Must get on it, can't have the backwards air, would slow me down considerablely.

actually it's not the backwards air in tires that my family complains about :whistle:
 
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Boy, did this subject go off topic, I am surprised that the original subject was dismissed so quickly. I saw this product on the Speed channel as part of an episode of Trucks. These guys don't seem like the type to throw garbage out there and they went into some detail about how it works and the installation. Said it was used quite extensively in mining equipment and cars in the salt flat area.

Mark
 
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