keoke, i understand were ya be coming from, and yes neither of us have actually seen this particular "cement mixer" but Ive never seen a need for a lay gear replacement without additional collateral damage, i.e. didnt think id need front and rear copper/brass thrust washers or the steal ones till i put a mic. on em, or a new sliding hub till i found deep ridges on the splines, and ya must admit its a p.i.t.a. to pull the trans again. i guess im suggesting he closely inspect all the components and not just change the laygear cuz he can easily see its got some teeth chipped or missing. "something" else went wrong along with this. in addition i went to our "mutual friend" for some parts that he explained were in good usable condition, when i went to pick them up they were in worse shape then what i pulled out, and what i took out was "bad". perhaps that speaks of how rare this stuff is becoming. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/savewave.gif