Help Needed with Upholstry Problem!

[Bruce Edge]

I have a new leather seat kit from Moss. I have used their upholstery kits in the past and have been able to install them without having to take to a professional upholstery shop. Not so with these 100-4 seats. I do not have any old patterns to go by. I cannot figure how the material is attached around the flange section of back part of the seat. This is the section that the hinge bolts go through to attach to the bottom seat pan. So I took it to a 40+year experienced upholster and he is not sure how to do it either. He has done later model Healeys where that section of the cover is in two pieces (not all one piece like this one). I know this is a lot to ask, but if someone could please take some detail digital pictures of that area of the seat particularly showing how the piping runs under the bottom and ends up at the back of the seat. I know this rambling is very confusing, I just hope someone has gone through this and understands what I'm asking.
Any help much appreciated,
Bruce

 

[AH100M]

"Not so with these 100-4 seats. I do not have any old patterns to go by. I cannot figure how the material is attached around the flange section of back part of the seat." "...how the piping runs under the bottom and ends up at the back of the seat."

Do you mean the backrest, not the seat (cushion)?

The backrest upholstery is 3 pieces, right? Two "ears" plus the big piece? Or are the ears now paert of the big piece, as original?

 

[John Turney]

The 100 and early (Longbridge) 100-6 seatback cover is not the three piece kind. After you slip the cover over the backrest, you have to hand stitch the cover over the flanges (ears) with the piping following the edge of the ear and around to the back along the bottom. The bottom of the back is attached to the metal backrest by tacking to a plywood piece along the bottom. The tacking is covered by a trim strip. The ends of the trim strip have metal points that cover the ends.

I would take a photo of mine, but I have black leather and black piping in a dark garage. The 100-6 site, https://www.healeysix.net/Teal Blue.htm has some photos of an original seat that shows how the piping goes.

 

[Bruce Edge]

Hey Guy's,
Thanks for the information.

Bruce

 

[andrea]

I am not a native english so I don't understand exactly what you need, so my reply can be vague, I have colect a lot of photo's of this work, here you can find some help I hope
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jOG3_EwU7PX76YKgFmRIbNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink --- and this is my album ---https://picasaweb.google.com/112770...EY10061958BeginningMayJune2011endMayJune2013#
Also Randy Forbes have one good album with this work (I haven't the address)
and from Magnus of BORA's I learned a lot https://healeyspecialists.com/high-quality-resto/
I have some difficulty today to upload photo's- but if you need more help please explain me exactly (with photo's is better)

 

[Bruce Edge]

Hey Guys, Thanks again. Andrea I looked at your build process pictures and that is a totally remarkable job. John, your post really zeroed me in, appreciate it. Like I said earlier I know It is confusing trying to tell others what is in your mind so I drew this sketch to better explain my thoughts to others. It looks like I will need to machine stitch down to point A in the diagram, then hand stitch down from point A to point B. From point B on to the backrest I will need to tack to the wooden insert. See attached picture.
Bruce

 

[John Turney]

You got it. You/your upholstery guy will need to cut some wedges out of the upholstery material that is tucked underneath where it goes around the ear so the material doesn't bunch up.

 

[andrea]

Hi Bruce here the sequence of the operation better explained (sorry I haven't the possibility to add photos -directly uploaded )
wood must be riveted - https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8QYIQgUZM3e50C0w0j73ZNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
then sponge glued- opening the border https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kNL9AhaBfPkEninnznND7NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/71BfuxjGXUso5yZuvWrh_NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
reinforce by cotton https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/y5lpisP0Z3v04U5UDrsRadMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
add soft material and add also https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qvVl-vZyAPvrNHd2qidVHNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
non glued soft m. to correct flaws https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/twuujFpMq7UsyJi2u2To19MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
put the edges in place https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jlRqR4Cd6nbDNCis2ShaOtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
glue and press the center https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jOG3_EwU7PX76YKgFmRIbNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Zkr8PTdULHvWJa_z5AdmxtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
glue also the two internal border https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/G3W3kW-tDS1g-9IkUr9Vo9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
now sewing the corner https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2uEn3h9PVAFPTpTXeVUWL9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
on my upholstery kit, only the under part are open https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2uEn3h9PVAFPTpTXeVUWL9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0TOLn8rDjnQGVz6gBsdBVNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
here the profesional are better(my good friend Fabrizio) https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/PlJAfmaeOm-Q9S3Fe8W5hNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/W9ja20NJleA2yIimRiQtRtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ziUl7gxBA1f65_jItG5nX9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/TT421pslONPnUAREFcuL0NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

 

[andrea]

just few more photos to explain the rear of seat finish
glue the rear sheet https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ZocnCb1CmOKOhQrmkzk3qNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
reverse the end border https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tHcgNSnTZnmKep2W0dSYMdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
staple on the wood-the rear and the border https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/2uEn3h9PVAFPTpTXeVUWL9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
cut the overlaps border https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/CyGz4i2xRuCCDSzGMu_ygtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
the finish border must be glued and stapled (in the center of the strip)https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/TT421pslONPnUAREFcuL0NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink

 

[bighealeysource]

Hey Andrea,
Great series of pictures showing how you did your seats. Mine are done but know many will appreciate your detailed pictures.
Regards,
Mike

 

[healeyblue]

I have quite a few good pictures detailing how I did this too on the longbridege, but my computer is in the shop for the moment so I will try and get some loaded later this week when I get it back.
Jim

 

[andrea]

Hi Mike
I have just remembered that I have make one of my album where I collect the all photos
that I find on the web- for myself instruction before the work --alzheimer at full gallop --
https://picasaweb.google.com/112770819864514987162/AUSTINHEALEYFrontSEATSREBUILDING very interesting BORA'S and various professional jobs

 

[Bruce Edge]

Hey Andrea, You went to a lot of trouble for me, and I am so appreciatative. Like they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. I printed them off this morning and took them to the upholstrer. After looking at the pictures he said it all made sense to him and he should not have any problem with it. Also, I was looking at some of your album pictures and saw a MGTD which looks identical to mine. The little tan dog in your pictures looks identical to my dog too. Is that your TD and dog?
Thank,
Bruce

 

[andrea]

Hi Bruce
Only the MG TD 52car is mine- the dog are from my neighbor !
Very happy that I can help you, this is a profesionist job, and we must learn a lot !
Good work! Cheers

 

[healeyblue]

here are some of my pics to add to the mix.

 

[healeyblue]

some more

 

[healeyblue]

One tip is I hand sewed both sides to the piping even though the leather side was stapled because I found it gave an even spacing and made the piping lay perfectly along the seam and not pull to either side.

 

[Bruce Edge]

One tip is I hand sewed both sides to the piping even though the leather side was stapled because I found it gave an even spacing and made the piping lay perfectly along the seam and not pull to either side.

Hi Jim, Thank you very much for the pictures. They really show the details. I am amazed at how you all have come to my aid.

Bruce

 

[healeyblue]

that's what we are here for. Glad to help.

 

[John Turney]

I did mine long before you all did, so I didn't have the excellent pictures/instructions. Now I have to decide if I need to redo mine.