XJ40 Frul pump Replacement [again]

[McKinley22]

Greetings!

My name is McKinley, this is my first post. I hear that this family of British car lovers is one of the best places on the net to find help with Jaguars! I am sure some may know my situation. Just a few days ago a fellow member posted a topic about my Jag. We were wondering how the fuel tank came out of the trunk. After defeating that battle we came in to another. The problem is as follows...

I lost the retaining clips to the hoses that connect to the bottom of the fuel tank. Thus after replacing the fuel lines and turning the ignition the fuel pressure causes the fuel line to disassociate itself from the tank.

I know this is one of those problems that only happens to amateur mechanics like myself, however I am hoping that someone else may have some suggestion as to how keep the fuel line attached without those stubborn clips. I cant seem to find anything suitable with the exception of the original part.

In reality I'm not exactly sure how those clips work. How do they keep the hose attached with all of that pressure? It seems as though they just stay snug around the metal fitting of the hose. I can barely keep the pressure back when I'm holding the line in with my hand.

Any help would be appriciated. Thanks in advance, McKinley.

PS: Vehicle in question is 1994 XJ6. Vin 702xxx.

 

[LarryK]

I would find the one you lost or get on-line and order them or get to the nearest dealer and order them. To be safe with that amount of fuel pressure, better to be safe than sorry. XKS Unlimmited in CA, Welsh Jaguar in OH, Terry's in IL. are some sources.

 

[bmurphy7369]

McKinley,

Hello neighbor,
Glad to see you made it to the forum. The members here are very helpful, interesting people with a wealth of knowledge. I am curious as to the way the clips act as retainers as well, having had my hand on the hoses (with no view of them) it is difficult to say. Someone will be able to explain the setup to you.
I believe it was Larry who mentioned dropping the driveline... this must be the reason for Haynes recommending that procedure first. Larry, by the way, welcome to the forum and thank you for your help when I asked about the tank removal a few days back.

Hang in there,
The drive is worth the wait..

Brian

 

[jessebogan]

Try coventry west. They part out Jags as well as new parts.
1 800 331 2193

The clips go through a slot, and through another slot in the line. As this is a major fire hazard, I would suggest using the proper parts.

 

[McKinley22]

Thanks for all of your help so far. I am happy to report that last night I was able to get the hoses to stay put. I used a standard hose clamp that is working fine. I did not find any holes in the fitting that the original clip might go through, and I am pretty sure that I am not leaking any fuel. I drove the car for the first time last night, and have since driven about 40 or 50 miles with no problems to report. I have also emailed Coventry West (thanks Jesse) to see if they have the needed clips.

Thanks again,
McKinley

 

[bmurphy7369]

McKinley,

As you know I saw the car running today and it looks and sounds great! Come by when you can and I'll take some photos for you to use for your avatar or to post in the Member's Rides forum. Now we are back to only one dead white/biscuit Jaguar in the neighborhood.... that would be mine of course! Thanks for the offer to help and I'll take you up on it.

Don't forget to introduce yourself in the New Members Forum........

 

[Exotexs]

hi, it's going to cost you an arm and a leg just for shipping to get those two clips, if you order from XK's Unlimited. Been there done that. Shop elsewhere, you'll be glad you did. There's many Jaguar parts suppliers in the East Coast and South.

Ex

 

[bmurphy7369]

Exotexs,
You're right on the shipping. I needed a few emblem retainers for my car, and a $3 part purchase was going to be around $20. I think someone mentioned Engel or Ingel Imports recently, I think in Illinois, somewhere close to here anyway. I'll get their info. They seem to have alot of NOS Jaguar, but I am not sure about post-1987 supplies. The lady I speak with there did Moss's Jaguar XJ catalogue, obtained diagram print permissions, etc.. before going to Ingel or Engel. She was very sharp on all Jaguar questions I had, so they may be a place that can help with reasonable prices as well. Other than that, Tom Wood Jaguar in north Indianapolis may be an option, but the Jaguar contract with dealers only allows them to service cars and sell parts for cars that sre less than (?) years old. They had a gas cap in stock for my 1993 a few years ago, so give them a try. No shipping either, just a long boring drive from here.

Brian /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif

 

[DrEntropy]

Engle Imports, (800)-253-4080.

Used 'em for years.

 

[bmurphy7369]

Thank you good Doctor, I couldn't find it in my list... I need to give them a call soon as well. If you ever get a chance ask for the kindy lady that came from Moss Motors, she is great to speak with. She isn't normally in sales, but knows her cars inside and out. Are they in Illinois? or Iowa? Can't recall now.

Brian

 

[equiprx]

It's unlikely that the hose clamps you used will result in anything but a catastrophic failure. I can't imagine that your local Jaguar parts shop doesn't have them in stock since they were used on all cars from 1993 on to at least 96. You uninstall the clips by pulling them like a hand grenade pins. There are two sizes, large for the large hose and small for the small hose. You re-install the clips on the hose before you install the hose to the tank. The straight side of the clip goes through the slot in the fitting and the curved part of the clip rests around the fitting. You should use a vacuum grease or petroleum jelly on the NEW o-rings and fittings and the fittings will now just snap in to the tank.
Steve D'Angelo
Pacifica, CA 94044

1952 XK 120, 4.0 liter OTS replica
1994 XJS, 6.0 liter coupe
1994 XJS, 4.0 liter coupe

 

[BritCarFan]

I had to remove the fuel tank recently to replace the fuel pump. I did not remove the driveline, but getting thos clips out was a major pain. If the car has been raised up a little higher access greatly improves.

I would defenately replace those hose clamps with the proper clips as all the vibrations and the pressure will loosen them up and you don't want to get stranded on the highway.

The clips are straight on one leg and curved on the other. When replaced, just double check by pulling on the fuel lines.