• The Roadster Factory Recovery Fund - Friends, as you may have heard, The Roadster Factory, a respected British Car Parts business in PA, suffered a total loss in a fire on Christmas Day. Read about it, discuss or ask questions >> HERE. The Triumph Register of America is sponsoring a fund raiser to help TRF get back on their feet. If you can help, vist >> their GoFundMe page.
  • Hey there Guest!
    If you enjoy BCF and find our forum a useful resource, if you appreciate not having ads pop up all over the place and you want to ensure we can stay online - Please consider supporting with an "optional" low-cost annual subscription.
    **Upgrade Now**
    (PS: Subscribers don't see this UGLY banner)
Tips
Tips

ScanGauge report

NutmegCT

Great Pumpkin
Gold
Online
Several weeks ago I had asked if there was a way to determine the speed at which my 2000 Mazda gets the highest mpg. One member here suggested a tool called the ScanGauge.

www.scangauge.com

After some due diligence, and noting the company has a 30 day return policy, I bought a ScanGauge-II for $159 using PayPal. ScanGauge is described as working on cars made from 1996 onward (cars having an OBD2 system).

Basically, ScanGauge gives you real-time readings from the OBD sensors in your car.

I got an immediate purchase confirmation email, followed next day by an email saying "due to unexpected demand following ScanGauge stories on CNN and MSNBC" I should expect a one week delay before shipping. But the ScanGauge arrive USPS priority mail just two days after I placed the order.

Well packed for mailing, professional carton, including a five foot connector cable (OBD to RJ11). I followed directions, plugging RJ11 into back of ScanGauge, other end into OBD port under driver side dash. Used the supplied Velcro tabs to mount the ScanGauge in easy view. Key on, engine start, gauge comes to life within 10 seconds.

Using the default settings, I first saw the LCD screen showing four "gauges" - RPM, MPH, MPG, VLT. RPM showed 1250, gradually lowering to 750 as the engine warmed from the cold start. Matched the dash tach, so I figured at least part of the ScanGauge was working.

MPH showed 0, MPG showed 0, VLT showed 14.5 (battery voltage).

I moved down the driveway, watching MPH mirror the speedometer, and MPG moving from 0 to 4.5, then 6, then gradually upward as I hit the two lane blacktop. Interesting to see MPG move higher as speed in top gear is increased on a straight patch, then drop as throttle is opened. Obviously, going downhill, MPG reads extremely high, up to 999, until uphill begins. This is all averaged for a TRIP reading, showing average MPG for a given time period.

MPG (and other readings) change about every two seconds, showing (I assume) a calculated MPG from distance travelled and fuel flow.

"Gauges" (LCD readouts of OBD system sensors) provided:

LP - fuel system loop
CPM - cost per mile
FIA - intake air temp
FWT - water temp
FPR - fuel pressure
GPH - gallons per hour
IGN - ignition timing
LOD - engine loading (percentage generated of the maximum power available)
MPG
MPH
MAP - manifold absolute pressure
RPM
TPS - throttle position
VLT - battery voltage

Note that all "USA" readings (gallons, miles, fahrenheit, etc.) can be switched to Continental (liters, km, centigrade, etc.). System also scans, records and clears OBD codes.

For the next week or two I played around with the system, seeing what was available and how to use it. First off, I realized that here in southern New England, there's just about *no way* to determine actual MPG based on a specific speed above ca. 50, as the Interstates are so busy and full of hills you just can't hold a steady speed on a straight-away. And trying to average the "out and return" MPG doesn't work, as the hills and exits for the "out trip" don't match the hills and exits for the "return trip"; similar exits may be a mile apart.

However, I was really surprised that the Mazda gets such high MPG on the daily 40 mile round trips, using the two-lane black top at an average speed of 40mph. Using different routes to the same destination, I found that a slightly longer trip in miles and time actually uses less fuel due to fewer hills and valleys. And a trip using only two lane blacktop averaging 40mph uses less fuel (and fewer dollars!) than the same trip using Interstate at higher speeds. MPG on my typical 40 mile round trip now, 48mpg. Way more than I got before when I was "driving blind" and hadn't analyzed the route choices.

Despite hitting some traffic lights on the same trip on various days, I've found that the Interstate saves *some* time, but sure uses more fuel for the same point-to-point done on two-lane blacktops.

Long story short, I've now used the ScanGauge to determine the least expensive "route" to follow for the trips I do every day/week. In the 30 days I've had it, I've figured out how to save around $80/month using MPG and COST gauges. COST is a calculated reading which takes the fuel cost per gallon you enter (in my case, $4.09), your MPG, and distance travelled, and shows the actual cost for each trip you make. Trip cost is recorded on a TRIP basis (which can be RESET at any time), a TODAY basis (last 24 hours), or a PREVIOUS DAY basis.

Use can download the entire 36-page ScanGauge handbook at:

https://scangauge.com/support/pdfs/SGMan5_0.pdf

Most of you guys probably already use something like this. But several years ago I was looking for a way to do this, and the "box" cost well over $1000. Times have changed. And so have fuel prices.

Tom
 
OP
NutmegCT

NutmegCT

Great Pumpkin
Gold
Online
Mounted on the dash (from the ScanGauge website):

IMG_3212_M.jpg
 
A

aerog

Guest
Guest
Offline
Interesting - thanks for the report. I use a Davis Car Chip in my Miata - but that's strictly a black-box recorder for reviewing later (and to read/clear codes).
 

DNK

Great Pumpkin
Country flag
Offline
Several people on the Astro site have . Love them too>
 

PeterK

Yoda
Offline
My Audi has the MPG displays on the dash and it helps keep my foot out of the throttle (by wire.) Most of the other OBDII stuff can be called up on the climate control display if you know how. But I usually use RossTech interface to my laptop. Very useful when you're tuning and troubleshooting.

Hadn't heard about the scangauge before. Can you also display fault codes and such?
 
OP
NutmegCT

NutmegCT

Great Pumpkin
Gold
Online
Offline
I also ordered one. it did take all of the 10 days to ship, however their communication was excellent.

great tool!

and as posted above, I have discovered the on my 53 mile (one way) commute, i get better mileage going to work than coming home. since its all uphill getting home it kinda figures. My commute also includes a 20 mile run on the interstate, where generally i lose a couple points on my MPG. It is certainly helping me to save fuel. A highly recommended gadget.

mark
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
KVH General Tech Rebuild Report Triumph 6
nichola TR6 TR6 two year build report Triumph 1
Sherlock A report from hinterland (and French cars) Spotted 4
jlaird MGB Would report MG 1
Cutrog1 How do I respond to all responses and add progress report on original article? FORUM Navigation Questions 3
T TR2/3/3A TRip report 2019 Triumph 4
Mickey Richaud General MG Road Trip Report MG 6
Jim_Gruber A Victory to report over those bastard Rear Drum Circlips for Bugsy IV/Hub rubbing Spridgets 3
KVH TR4/4A Report on Pertronix Triumph 6
Pythias 1275 Transplant --- Final Report Spridgets 4
Michael Oritt Report from Watkins Glen Racing 11
Moseso Technical Report: Bronze Spring Bushes Triumph 26
Mickey Richaud British V8 Report? MG 9
Tinkerman Progress Report Triumph 4
Tinkerman TR2/3/3A Progress Report 60TR3A Triumph 6
Mickey Richaud Mileage Report MG 8
jlaird I would like to report Spridgets 3
angelfj1 Progress Report Triumph 12
Morris All British Car Day Report Spridgets 9
JPSmit MG2010 report Spridgets 6
drooartz 1000 mile report Spridgets 15
TR4nut TR2/3/3A Very brief status report and question on TR3A Triumph 26
jlaird I would like to report Spridgets 4
S Heritage Report for my 56 MkI Saloon Jaguar 4
Cottontop Healeys Return to Bonneville - Trip Report Austin Healey 4
JPSmit British Car Day Report Spridgets 8
3798j Wedge TR8 Drive Report Triumph 1
Ohiobugeye Progress Report Spridgets 1
Westfield_XI Westfield 11 status report April 2009 Lotus 1
mrv8q Today's weather report... Triumph 68
jlaird Status report-garage Spridgets 8
jlaird Tony, status report Spridgets 3
ronzet Progress Report '66 Rebuild.. MG 48
Moseso Advanced Ditributors report Triumph 10
eejay56 Spitfire 200$ Spitty report Triumph 10
Lin BT7 restoration progress report Austin Healey 6
regularman A small bit of progress to report. Spridgets 3
N TR6 Progress report #2 on white TR6 Triumph 9
N TR6 Progress report on White TR6 Triumph 10
N Brosky requested Progress Report Triumph 2
prb51 TR2/3/3A TR3 front suspension report Triumph 6
B Nial, Glen Report? Racing 6
jlaird May I report Racing 6
Twosheds Targa Newfoundland Report Please? Racing 10
apbos My car is in Japan - and progress report Spridgets 8
H Progress report MG 6
jlaird I have a report Spridgets 9
P trip report British Motorbikes 3
jlaird Progress report Spridgets 10
YankeeTR British Car Field Day, Sussex, WI...A full report Triumph 5

Similar threads

Top