No luck- AGAIN! Help!

[Tinster]

Well this has has so far been a futile waste of my time.

I could not install the oil filter element with the original
metal canister because of the ^#$^*$!! spring pushing back
at me.

It turns out the spin on adapter has an even STRONGER
spring pushing back at me. With both hands, I am able
to push the spin on adapter <span style="font-weight: bold">almost </span>to the engine block
but not quite. I cannot get it into the mounting groove.

Even if I can get the bloody thing into the mounting groove
with both hands, how would I tighten the bolt?

This is very frustrating. There must be a trick to this
install that I do not know.

Any words of wisdom??

dale

 

[tdskip]

Pictures Dale?

This doesn't sound quite right to me....

 

[Tinster]

Ok- I
I removed the filter can before I attempted the install
so disregard that portion of the photo. Also disregard
my nice red powder coating. It's now beat up and scratched.

There is a powerful spring inside the adapter that pushes
a circular, wobbly, piece (yellow arrows) with a gasket
against a plate with a hole in the engine block.

The wobbly piece must be pushed flush with the engine block
in order for the large bolt to engage the threads.

I have tried with both hands and cannot compress the spring
enough for the bolt to grab.

I tried a pry bar but could not get a wrench on the bolt head,
neither could I get the adapter cenetered in the mounting groove
with a pry bar.

Would it hurt anything if I just removed the spring and installed
the unit without it?

Any suggestions?

<span style="color: #006600">EDIT: I knew I read that these adapters were
a real problem to install and most leaked after install. I now
see what those folks were saying. Darned difficult to install. </span>

d

 

[Mickey Richaud]

Looks like one of those jobs that requires two sets of hands!

Shot in the dark, but is that the right bolt? If it were a bit longer, it might grab. But then, it may not allow the spring to do its thing.

Whatever you do, don't install without the spring.

Mickey

 

[Tinster]

<span style="color: #660000"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Ah Ha!!!!!!!!!!

There is indeed an auto mechanic's trick involved !!</span>.</span>

Compress the spring 100% with the bolt before trying
to place unit into the car. The bolt will stick out it's
full length.

Insert the bolt into the threaded hole and then rotate
the entire spin-on adapter until everything is snug and
centered inside the mounting ring.

Rotate into position to put on the filter can.

I just knew there had to be a trick to this.

d

 

[Mickey Richaud]

<span style="color: #660000"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Ah Ha!!!!!!!!!!

There is indeed an auto mechanic's trick involved !!</span>.</span>

Compress the spring 100% with the bolt before trying
to place unit into the car. The bolt will stick out it's
full length.

Insert the bolt into the threaded hole and then rotate
the entire spin-on adapter until everything is snug and
centered inside the mounting ring.

Rotate into position to put on the filter can.

I just knew there had to be a trick to this.

d

What'd ya do, read the instructions?

 

[tdskip]

Huh, different design than others I've seen and used....

Anyway, looks like you have it nailed now!

 

[Tinster]

ShaZAAAMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Put the car back together and took a very enjoyable
1 1/2 hour test drive.

50 psi warm idle
70 psi at 3000 rpm on expressway.
Scooted up to 70 mph and lovin' life.

thanks Paul !!!

d

 

[14dna]

DALE:

For a guy who says he has no mechanical ability, you sure do seem to solve every issue that comes up.
If you were a mechanic, you'd have a PR car factory goin' on.

Drive it like ya stole it. GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!!!

Dave

 

[TR4]

ShaZAAAMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Put the car back together and took a very enjoyable
1 1/2 hour test drive.

50 psi warm idle
70 psi at 3000 rpm on expressway.
Scooted up to 70 mph and lovin' life.

thanks Paul !!!

d

And always check for leaks after this conversion has been made.

 

[2wrench]

Dale: I am delighted; exuberant; thrilled and all of those other
ones not mentioned....

You get it. I am very happy for you.

Experience counts, and you are getting better at every aspect of being
a TR owner, including grinning widely as you traverse the roadways.

Congratulations,

 

[Silverghost]

Dale congrats to your grit and determination!!

If I am repeating a previous post, forgive me. I think I didn't click the right button the last time. You are well on your way to being inducted into the "Brotherhood of Car Guys" :laugh: I promise you all of us have done one or more of the following (though many may not want to admit it!):

1) Forgotten to put the rotor back in the dizzy after a tune-up.
2) Put the dizzy in 180 degrees the other direction.
3) Put the wrong wire on the wrong spark plug.
4) Forgotten to check the gap on that previously mentioned spark plug.
6) Left the drain plug or oil filter either loose or off after an oil change.
5) Had to clean up the resulting lake of petroleum!! Thank heavens for kitty litter!
7) Left some tool somewhere in the engine bay - and not finding it until later.

And most absolutely certainly beyond any doubt whatsoever:

8) Worked on something WITHOUT reading the directions first!!!

:laugh: This one is not our fault though....it's in our DNA!!!

I am sure others can add more to the list, those are just the ones I could think up quickly.....

 

[Brosky]

Now I can really state that my work here is done.

Don, you have the next crisis.

Doc, you're up third and 2Wrench is batting cleanup.

Peace..........

 

[kc_doyle]

Did the rotor and plug wire. Funny thing, with the rotor out, the dang thing just wouldn't fire. Go figure.

 

[tdskip]

I promise you all of us have done one or more of the following (though many may not want to admit it!):

1) Forgotten to put the rotor back in the dizzy after a tune-up.
2) Put the dizzy in 180 degrees the other direction.
3) Put the wrong wire on the wrong spark plug.
4) Forgotten to check the gap on that previously mentioned spark plug.
6) Left the drain plug or oil filter either loose or off after an oil change.
5) Had to clean up the resulting lake of petroleum!! Thank heavens for kitty litter!
7) Left some tool somewhere in the engine bay - and not finding it until later.

And most absolutely certainly beyond any doubt whatsoever:

8) Worked on something WITHOUT reading the directions first!!!

Have you hidden a web cam in my garage somewhere? I'm guilty of all of these...

 

[mrv8q]

Good man, Paul, fostering mutually beneficial international relations between the United States and Puerto Rico! Good on ya, mate!

 

[Brosky]

It's much nicer to read about Dale's driving in the mountains and fishing than reading tales of woe about the pain it is to get parts shipped to him at exorbitant costs. I was happy that I had the part he needed and could help.

 

[2wrench]

Puerto Rico exporting oil? Sorry. I couldn't help myself.