• Hey there Guest!
    If you enjoy BCF and find our forum a useful resource, if you appreciate not having ads pop up all over the place and you want to ensure we can stay online - Please consider supporting with an "optional" low-cost annual subscription.
    **Upgrade Now**
    (PS: Subscribers don't see this UGLY banner)
Tips
Tips

swage line on 100

red57

Jedi Knight
Country flag
Offline
Hi all,

This has probably been asked/answered somewhere on this forum but I came up dry when I tried searching.

I am working on a '53 BN1 that does not have the swage line on the rear portion of the rear fenders and I am wondering when they changed to the swage line running across the rear portion. Not planning to change this BN1, just something I never noticed before and became curious.

Thanks,
Dave
 

mjobrien

Jedi Trainee
Country flag
Offline
Dave,


53-55 were all BN1's and had the line stop at the front of the wheel well. On the BN2 in model year 56, on about July/Aug 55 they extended the line to the back. I have heard there we some BN1's that did leave with the change but not sure of this fact or fiction.....

Michael.
 
OP
red57

red57

Jedi Knight
Country flag
Offline
Michael,

Thanks, I sort of thought that was the case but I have seen pictures of a couple of '55 100-S models with the line on the rear portion and that made me wonder if the change happened earlier.

Thanks again,
Dave
 

zblu

Jedi Knight
Country flag
Offline
This is my 53 Nov build,shows the correct lines, all original panels and numbers
 

Attachments

  • 15308.jpg
    15308.jpg
    66.8 KB · Views: 323

zblu

Jedi Knight
Country flag
Offline
red57,
just as a matter of note, the front wheel arch clearance changed at some time in the BN1 run,got the dimension check somewhere if you need it, depending on the body number you have
 

Editor_Reid

Moderator
Staff member
Platinum
Country flag
Online
I'm on the run at the moment and so do not have time to check my reference library, but I want to try to avoid this thread including too much incorrect info and will say that I think that some checking will reveal that:

1. The "continued swage line" occurred <span style="font-style: italic">within</span> BN1 production, and not at the changeover to the BN2. Later BN1s had the continued swage line. The lack of the swage line rear of the rear wheel opening is a characteristic of the early BN1s.

2. The increased front wheel opening did occur at the changeover point from BN1 to BN2, or very, very near it. While there will always be a few rare exceptions and some cars that had their wings (fenders) changed early in their lives, the increased opening size <span style="font-style: italic">is</span> a BN2 characteristic.
 

mjobrien

Jedi Trainee
Country flag
Offline
Reid,

Thanks for the clarification, I did this from memory but will check the reference book I have as well.

Michael.
 

healeynut

Jedi Knight
Country flag
Offline
My '53 August BN1 doesn't have the rear fender swage line and the lower fender openings.... it's awesome!

:crazyeyes:
 

Michael Oritt

Yoda
Gold
Country flag
Offline
My car was built December 1954 with the smaller front fender cuts and no line aft of the rear wheels.
 

roscoe

Jedi Knight
Silver
Country flag
Offline
I have no idea if there is any truth to it, but I was told a while ago by someone that there might have been a few cars produced that had one of each type of rear wing. As any paint shop will tell you when you start noting flaws, you can't see both sides of the car at the same time.
 
Country flag
Offline
roscoe said:
I have no idea if there is any truth to it, but I was told a while ago by someone that there might have been a few cars produced that had one of each type of rear wing. As any paint shop will tell you when you start noting flaws, you can't see both sides of the car at the same time.
I believe that is original owner: John Wheatley's car (Reid, correct me if I'm wrong).

That posed some consternation when he was redoing the car some years ago; correct the obvious flaw, or restore it as it was originally built? I believe the latter scenario won out...
 

pan

Jedi Warrior
Country flag
Offline
My 100 is a July '54 built car. When I got the car in 1968 it had one rear wing without the swage and one with the swage filled over. I always assumed it had been fitted with a BN2 panel at some time in its hard previous life. When I restored the car recently I had the swage removed. Loath as I am to correct Reid, I believe that the continued swage beyond rear wheel arch was introduced during BN2 production. Reference: Original Austin-Healey (Clausager).
The swage on the 100S is different from the BN2, being at a more steep angle.
 

mjobrien

Jedi Trainee
Country flag
Offline
Pulled from Autin-Healey 100/100-6/3000 Restoration Guide by Gary Anderson and Roger Moment.

pg: 42
" On the rear fendors of the BN1's, the swage lines ended at the front of the rear wheel opening, and the rear portion was smooth. This style was replaced by a fender with the swege line continuing across the rear portion of the fender soon after BN2 production in late 1955. The change point is not recorded and the change appears to have been gradual, perhaps taking place as stocks of earlier fedners were exhusted."

Hope this helps. I'm sure there are exception to this, after all we are talking about a Healey!

Michael.
 

richch

Jedi Trainee
Offline
This is one area I've studied in great depth. The swage line in the rear wing of the Hundred gradually changed out early on in the BN2 production. Same goes for the larger front wheel arch cutout. There may always be individual exceptions to this, and yes, it's even been recorded that a few cars left with one style on each side! However, if we can generalize on this, there were a couple of months of BN2 production where the outer panels still have all the characteristics of the earlier BN1 body panels, i.e. a few with smaller front wheel arch cutouts, and a couple of months worth of BN2 production with no rear swage behind the rear wheels.
Rich Chrysler
AHCA Hundred Registrar
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
J Swage line alignment - Swage line reshape? Austin Healey 27
B Swage Line Austin Healey 4
T poor fit door / swage lineup Austin Healey 8
Frankenhealey I knew Donald had a use in mind for that swage lin Austin Healey 7
A TR2/3/3A Those round fuel line clips Triumph 2
E TR4/4A What Flare to put on a TR4 Brake Line Triumph 2
D TR2/3/3A Thread and size for tr3 fuel tank vapor line fitting Triumph 0
J TR2/3/3A Brake Line Flares Triumph 8
J TR2/3/3A Rear Fuel Line Clips Triumph 3
M TR6 Fuel return line Triumph 8
KVH TR4/4A Routing of TR4A Fuel Line Triumph 7
S TR2/3/3A brass fitting from a steel brake line Triumph 2
Walter74 Fuel Line Routing Austin Healey 7
B TR4/4A In-Line fuse 25 or 35 Amp? Triumph 21
K TR2/3/3A Fuel line routing from pump to carbs Triumph 7
D Fuel Line Clip vs Brake Line Clip Austin Healey 2
G TR6 Clogged fuel line Triumph 6
B Brake Line Pictures Austin Healey 1
KVH General Tech Brake Failure--The Line Split Triumph 19
petnatcar Fuel Line Upgrade Austin Healey 8
B TR4/4A Rear Fuel Line Routing IRS Triumph 5
D TR2/3/3A oil pressure line venting? Triumph 4
TomMull TR2/3/3A rear mount does not line up Triumph 10
R Bugeye oil pressure line Spridgets 9
TR6Canuck TR6 Wire spoke rims to fit Michelin Red Line Tires on TR6 Triumph 12
R TR6 Clutch Master Cylinder Hydraulic Line (Thread / Flare Type) Triumph 4
Geo Hahn TR6 TR6 Oil Line Thread Size Triumph 1
D TR2/3/3A rearmost fuel line question Triumph 5
MGTF1250Dave T-Series MG TF fuel line from tank to pump MG 3
JPSmit Fuel line - gas tank question Restoration & Tools 5
M TR2/3/3A Fuel Line Fitting at the Tank. Triumph 5
steveg TR6 Source for fuel line P-clip Triumph 17
Lin Brake hard line question Austin Healey 4
M TR2/3/3A Brake Line Removal From the Left Frame Rail Triumph 14
C TR2/3/3A Gas Line Triumph 11
R TR2/3/3A Brake Line Triumph 4
B TR2/3/3A Caliper brake line Triumph 10
Lin Healey assembly line - engine installation Austin Healey 19
Jim_Stevens TR2/3/3A Clutch slave hydraulic line Triumph 1
Lin Brake line fittings Austin Healey 2
M Vacuum Line on a 948 Spridgets 4
A TR2/3/3A how do i fix this hood line? Triumph 5
mctriumph Morgan drive line Other British Cars 2
T TR2/3/3A Can someone confirm size and thread count on fuel line tube nuts [brass fittings]? Triumph 16
longbridgehealey In line fuses Austin Healey 25
Bayless What size fuel line for '67 Sprite? Spridgets 2
John Turney TR6 Brake Line to Front Calipers Triumph 4
dklawson General TR Fuel Line Routing Triumph 4
M TR4/4A Fuel Line Fittings - Stock or Upgrade? Triumph 6
Gliderman8 TR6 Removing Left Rear brake line... help! Triumph 9

Similar threads

Top