Bug Eye front drum brake question

[BillD]

Now that I replaced the left front bearings, I checked the right side and found the castle nut was torqued correctly with no noise or wobble from the bearings. However, I'm getting some noise from the brake shoe springs rubbing against the hub. This happens because the shoes are floating outward presumably because of the spring tension. If I push them back, there is no noise. Everything appears to be functioning properly. What's going on and what's the fix?

Thanks again,
BILL D

 

[bug_sixty]

Maybe wrong spring for the RIGHT side.. someone has a pic of both sides spread out

 

[Healeysince59]

I'll bet you're missing these:

https://www.mossmotors.com/graphics/products/PDF/181-340.pdf

Marv J

 

[BillD]

Wow. I think that's exactly what I need. Unfortunately, it appears that they are only listed for the rear brakes in the Moss catalog and my problem is with the front. Functionally, I think something like this would cure the problem.

 

[bug_sixty]

Those suckers are oddly enough a rare item I think.. Hopefully you saved the old ones...

 

[JPSmit]

Wow. I think that's exactly what I need. Unfortunately, it appears that they are only listed for the rear brakes in the Moss catalog and my problem is with the front. Functionally, I think something like this would cure the problem.

Might be worth printing the page and wandering down to a brake shop - preferably one owned by an old guy.

 

[Jim_Gruber]

Someone on this list I'm sure has some.

 

[Jim_Gruber]

Another reason to improve braking performance and upgrade to discs up front.

 

[BillD]

Are the springs mounted outside or inside of the shoes? It seems like if they were mounted on the inside they would pull the shoes toward the back plate (like the "steady springs" on the rear) and I wouldn't have this problem.

 

[smaceng]

Hold down springs are mounted to hold the shoes toward the backing plate. Can be a bear to install.

 

[61frogeye]

Hold down springs are mounted to hold the shoes toward the backing plate. Can be a bear to install.

That's why it's nice to have the old originals, they are easier to install than new stiffer ones.

 

[BillD]

I was thinking about the shoe return spring rather than the steadying spring (apparently only used on the rear drum). Mine were mounted on the front of the shoes (away from the backing plate) pulling the shoes away. I re-installed them behind the shoes and the shoes no longer float outward. Is this correct? None of the diagrams or pictures show this.

 

[nomad]

I think it is, Bill, most newer brake setup's dispense with the springs holding the shoe to the backplate. They were common in the 50's and 60's on a lot of cars.

Kurt.