What is wrong with this picture?

[2wrench]

Here is my angle drive set in place without the bracket that
will hold it into place so you can more clealy see my
concern.

The cable-looking end of the angle drive should slide
down into the "nipple" that is protruding out from the
inside of the overdrive.

That cable-looking end of the angle drive is too big to
slide down into the nipple -- and, the nipple looks to me
to be crimped and the crimp is what is prohibiting the
cable-looking end from going down in.

That "crimp" looks as if it were factory and as if it is
supposed to be there, yet it looks awfully questionable,
as it is not very accommodating, here.

I now have two speedo cables. One fits and drives the
angle drive unit (screwed on and turned by fingers); but,
the other cable inside the sheath is smaller in its diamater
and does not drive the speedo angle.

Someting is amiss and I can't put my finger on it.
(No pun intended....again.)

Can anybody be of any help, here?

Thanks,

Opps, sorry, but here is the Pic:

 

[martx-5]

Are you sure that the piece with the crimp isn't just a piece of an old angle drive that shouldn't be there?? Did you try to remove it??

 

[2wrench]

No, I didn't. That could make sense. Should I just grab it with a
pair of vice grips and tug? Could I damage something?
What do you think?

 

[martx-5]

I'm not familiar with the OD trans, but all the other trans/speedo attachments I've seen did not have a piece sticking out like that. Put the vice grips on, and gently tap the vise grips with a hammer in the outward direction...this usually works better then just tugging, as you have more control. If it's still reluctant to come out, just wait for someone else to answer and see if they know what's up. But to me, it looks like that the piece sticking out shouldn't be there.

 

[TheSearcherMan]

Is this thread for real?

 

[martx-5]

Is this thread for real?

Unfortunately, there are alot of us here on the forum that do not have the infinite wisdom and knowledge that you obviously possess. So, perhaps you would like to enlighten us rather then making snippet remarks.

 

[DougF]

Fortunately, we have members of the Forum who possess all levels of expertise. If we all new everything about these cars, there would not be a need.

The obstacles we face with these cars were all new to everyone at one time. I am certain there was a time that you may have had the same or a similar question. Not everyone is mechanically inclined. But if the question is being asked, more than likely the person is trying to fix it himself instead of taking it to the shop. I believe this only strengthens the hobby when the owner gets to know his car better.

There are many people who never would have considered swinging a wrench on their car had it not been for the help and encouragement from fellow Forum members.

 

[2wrench]

Is this thread for real?

Jesus, Searcher. Yes, it's for real. So you gonna
help or just poke fun at my igornace again?

Come on, guy.

 

[2wrench]

My first time dealing with this. It is kind of funny, after I've put the
engine back together and it's running. Seems rather ironic to me, too.

I don't think I could have gotten this far, were it not for the help
here.

Guess ole Searcher wasn't round when I asked the Forum if I should go for
this. I was encouraged to go for it and I'm glad I did.

Once I'm past this, I'll have a much better understanding of this aspect
of my car, for sure.

Say, Searcher, do you read my posts just to roll your eyes and snicker or
what? Come on, man, if you got something to offer, let's hear it...please.

 

[2wrench]

Okay. Gear is out. It may be possible that a previous angle drive
piece has been broken off into the space that should be occupied by
the speedo angle drive. This shouldn't be, as this is a newly rebuilt
overdrive, rebuilt for me by a pro.

I'll let you know what I find on further inspection.

 

[TRopic6]

2w,

All I can get to right now is a Spitfire J-unit I got for parts. The "crimps" form the square female part that the male end of the 90-angle adapter goes into. Your angle adapter looks new - maybe they didn't form the male square end quite small enough...or there is a bit of the old adapter cable stuck down in there.

I haven't found the time to start my 'rebuild a blown-up TR6 J-type with Spitfire J-type parts" yet, so I can only speculate.

Jeff
2xTR6

 

[TR3driver]

Did your OD by any chance originally come from a Volvo? They are frequently sold as being "the same" as Triumph ODs. But the one I picked up cheap for parts does indeed take a slightly smaller speedo cable, and my Triumph angle adapter will not quite fit into the gear. Since this angle adapter works fine with the Triumph gear (still in the car), I'm confident the problem is the Volvo speedo gear.

 

[emmett1010]

Hello;
I'm unsure of the picture. since I can't see threads on the top fitting, it appears that the upper screw-on sleeve is still attached, and the cable pulled loose?
I teach college mechanics to 18 and 19 year old young men.
I often use dialogue, asking what if and how do questions.
Some of the answers and comments of my students are wildly nonsensical, however I never NEVER make fun of them, but patiently explain why that can't be the answer. The students aren't afraid to participate, often spiritly, and learning occurs.
Both Frank and Art, have helped me trememdously, carefully explaining where my windtone horns mount for example on my tr3 that I bought completely disassembled, in boxes. Its hard to put a puzzle together when you didn't take it apart.
I found it hard to believe that the exhaust ran THROUGH the xbox on the frame, but after assembly its perfectly obvious.
This is a wonderful, helpful forum, and lets try to be encourgers.
Emmett

 

[sail]

this is my A OD fitting

 

[2wrench]

Did your OD by any chance originally come from a Volvo? They are frequently sold as being "the same" as Triumph ODs. But the one I picked up cheap for parts does indeed take a slightly smaller speedo cable, and my Triumph angle adapter will not quite fit into the gear. Since this angle adapter works fine with the Triumph gear (still in the car), I'm confident the problem is the Volvo speedo gear.

I'll contact the overdrive seller in Australia and find out what the scoop is. Sounds
like you are on the issue, Randall.

Thanks for all the support....and maybe if I get my nomenclature before posting, it won't
offend the likes of Searcherman quite so much.

Thanks for all the responses and the support. Maybe my ignorance and my learning curve
will assist some other poor soul who is going for it, just like me.

 

[TR3driver]

Maybe my ignorance and my learning curve
will assist some other poor soul who is going for it, just like me.

Not to worry, Dennis. We all learned the hard way, just some did it before this forum was created.

One of my most memorable moments was installing my old TR3A halfshafts into the TR4 differential I had just installed into my TR3A; and not discovering until I tried to check the end float that a TR4 differential is wider than a TR3. That must've been oh, 33 years ago ...

 

[elysium]

2W,
S_M is like OJ on the track of the real killers-on the track of who is making all those bad cams out there and shoving them in his car when he isn't looking!Now if only he could figure out how to put in a proper set of valve springs he would have time to help the likes of know-nothings like us-til then we'll just have to muddle along together.

 

[2wrench]

Well, I found my old e-mail regarding the purchase of this overdrive unit.
Believe it or not, our communications happened on around Christmas.
Got a contact saying the seller had not received payment on the 25th
of December.

Well, I made payment and received my unit. I tried to communicate my
concerns, and hopefully, Ian (the seller), will still be at that
e-mail address and will respond.

He had enjoyed a very good reputation for business etiquette and did respond
to all my questions and concerns timely.

Hoping to hear from him soon.

Thanks for being so great,

 

[71MKIV]

I'm wid Emnmett.

I do not see the threads that the adapter screws onto, seems to me that the part the adapter screws onto is missing?

Maybe?

Steve Spangler

 

[TR3driver]

Of course there is a piece not in the picture. That is the "without the bracket that will hold it into place so you can more clealy see my
concern."

But the space shown in the photo is far larger than that piece; because the square input to the angle drive is supposed to slide down inside that shaft (and be located by the crimps). The threaded portion of the "bracket" goes mostly inside the nut of the angle drive; when proparly installed, the edge of the nut is only perhaps 1/4" away from the surface of the bearing housing inside the OD.

Here is Nelson's shot of the "missing" piece