Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes. Now, get a load of this, I put both the cam I just received next to the one I just removed. Boy, what at shocker, the lobes are in such different locations. I put the new cam in the engine. The lobes are all over the place. Example, one lobe mite be centered on the lifter bore, some others toward the front of the engine in regards to the lifter bore, however, some lobes, the edge of the lobe is centered in regards to the lifter bore. This cannot be correct, so, it goes back to the supplier. Now, I called the motherland, there is a cam blank problem. I was going to order one of theirs, they said they were out. One has to wonder are they out, or, do they know I will check the lobe location and they don't want to sell to me? They did say I would be better off with a regrind, as long as I used an original factory profile. Richard indicated a week or so ago, he was aware of the lobe location problem, now he has backed off of that statement. We can talk about motor oil all we want to, but, its a combination of errors, lobe location, soft lifters, higher lift, spring tension. Once again, I think Rockwell testing will tell the story on the lifers, and camshaft. If there is no accoutability, what incentive do suppliers have to sell acceptable parts?