question about media blasting and engine paint.

[Aristocraft]

Hey there. I have been searching for a good while on here and believe i have a good idea on the engine paint but just wanted to make sure before i do anything. My motor and transmission have been pulled and are ready to strip and paint. All the accessories on the motor now (generator, starter, filter canister ect.) are currently painted black, and the rest of the motor green. I thought that they were all painted green and thinking along the way someone either painted them black, or they are replacement parts that did not get painted green.
So my question is, what is the correct paint color scheme on the motor for my 67 BJ8? and also the box on the transmission color. mine is orange now. I want it to be done right the first time, and historically correct. below is a picture of my motor/tranny combo.

Also, We are in Atlanta and I need to have the frame either blasted or dipped, anyone know of anyone around here that is good?

thank you all for your help. gotta love this site!

Scott

 

[Johnny]

Well Scott that photo brings back lots of memories. I prefer the acid dipping method of removing paint and rust from the frame/chassis. But that's only because the cars I've done needed extensive metal working and welding. If I had a better frame I would of used sandblasting or now they use soda blasting to just remove paint. Your choice, I'm sure there's plenty of places around Atlanta for both methods.

I used the Moss paint with a good primer on the motor and transmission. Lately I've noticed more and more people not painting the transmission at all, instead they use a clear coat sealer.

I noticed on your car the generator and starter are painted black, is that original? All mine were painted engine color.

 

[Legal Bill]

At the factory the engine was painted green as an assembled unit including the generator, oil filter, starter, and some of the hoses. The fan belt would get it too. Also the manifolds I believe (I will have to check on that tonight). The carbs were installed after the engine was installed in the car, so those were not painted.

Most people do not follow the factory method of painting. Instead, they paint the assembled long block with pan and valve cover installed and then paint the generator, oil filter canister, and starter motor separately. Some also paint the valve cover separately, although the correct as new appearance had paint on the side of the valve cover gasket that could be seen under the valve cover.

 

[Keoke]

Hey there. I have been searching for a good while on here and believe i have a good idea on the engine paint but just wanted to make sure before i do anything.

My motor and transmission have been pulled and are ready to strip and paint. All the accessories on the motor now (generator, starter, filter canister ect.) are currently painted black, and the rest of the motor green.
They should be green too---


I thought that they were all painted green and thinking along the way someone either painted them black, or they are replacement parts that did not get painted green .
Could have happened either way..

So my question is, what is the correct paint color scheme on the motor for my 67 BJ8? and also the box on the transmission color. mine is orange now. I want it to be done right the first time, and historically correct
.
Just paint it all green after you reassemble it and you won't be far from" Historicall Correct"-- :laugh:


below is a picture of my motor/tranny combo.

Also, We are in Atlanta and I need to have the frame either blasted or dipped, anyone know of anyone around here that is good?

thank you all for your help. gotta love this site!

Scott

 

[Aristocraft]

That is great and just what I needed to know. thank you all very much for your responses. Very interesting. Now what about the transmission. in the pic you can see how it has the colored section on it. does everyone else's?

 

[Randy Forbes]

I've taken out transmissions that still had green paint left on them, though I couldn't swear by who put the paint put on...

 

[Keoke]

That is great and just what I needed to know. thank you all very much for your responses. Very interesting. Now what about the transmission. in the pic you can see how it has the colored section on it. does everyone else's?

That is the base color of all trannies I have seen.Finished they are green like the overdrive and the rest of the engine.---Keoke

P.S. since the gear box is glyptal coated in side which has asimilar color, they may have just dipped the whole thing??

 

[Aristocraft]

Hmmm I dont know. I am not sure what they ahve done to the tranny paint combo in the past, thats why i was hoping to find out how is "should" be

Thanks for all the help!

 

[Keoke]

That is the base color of all trannies I have seen."Finished they are Healey green" like the overdrive and the rest of the engine.---Keoke

P.S. since the gear box is glyptal coated in side which has a color similar to your picture , they may have just dipped the whole trannie case prior to its assembly.
Then painting it Healey green after it was assembled and attached to the engine. .

 

[Aristocraft]

HMM, interesting take that it could have been dipped or something. oh well, Healey green it will be!

I think I want to spray the combo with my gun instead of the cans though, so will have to have it color matched...

will post new pics tomorrow. car is all apart, all fenders off and ready to be media blasted!

 

[AutoArt]

The color from Moss tends to be to bright, such as the color for a Bug Eye.
Bill Hersh has a great match, in quarts, requires brush or a spray gun.

 

[Legal Bill]

Bugeyes had bright green engines? News to me.

 

[Brinkerhoff]

I don't even know you but any Healey owner that would pull his engine and gearbox just to paint them the original way is my kind of guy !! Embrace your disease !! I've had to. Any big Healey restoration should start with Gary Anderson/ Roger Moment book on Healey restoration. Its the definative on correctness. I keep a copy next to my favorite seat in the house. Bill Hirsch's paint is correct and comes in qts. Its very thick , probably a synthetic enamel and will need to be reduced with fast dry lacquer thinner or reducer about 50% to spray wet. Spray cans are mostly vehicle as opposed to paint so not cost effective if you have spray equipment IMHO. Either way , clean as well as possible and spray a coat of catalysed epoxy primer( I used DP 40 in Khaki green). This will make all of the difference in the finished product over time as it will adhere best to the various metals and shapes and textures. Kevin

 

[Aristocraft]

Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like Bill is who i will be searching for. I would much rather spray it with my equipment as i am very comfortable with it. Sounds like a neat book i may need to look for as well. may have the answer to many of my questions.

yes restoring things is a disease i have come to accept. thats why i have been a classic boat restorer for 10 years now. cars are fairly new to me though, so have many questions.

thanks again for all the help, this place is just great!

 

[AutoArt]

The older I get the more I get wrong.
I was off on the color as the Bug Eyes / Midgets are a darker green than a big Healey and far less metalic.
Moss Healey is that darker color