Put a new fuse box in now I have troubles

[Jims71TR]

OK I took out the old rusted fuse panel and installed a new one w/modern fuses. Everything is working including a few mods I added. But now when I turn the key on my parking lights come on and if I put the heads lights on I can turn the ign key to off and the car will still run? I read and re-read the wireing schematic not sure what I did wrong. Any help?

Jim

 

[DNK]

Jim, welcome to the forum, helps putting your cars in your signature so we don't have to go "detective" and find it.
I take it this is on the 71 6?
What system did you use and how about a pic.
Evidently something is wrong as the light circuit has nothing to do with the run and start circuits

 

[Jims71TR]

Hi Don, Yes its the 71 6. I picked up a new fuse panel from napa and put the hot brown on one side for 6 fuses and the white ign hot on the other end to another 6 fuses. I put the red/red on the white side and the red/green on the brown side. Everything else is working correct.
jim

 

[DNK]

That don't "sound" right.
Hard to picture it.
Please post a pic.
Been trying to move to your fair city for a couple of years .
Daughter just start school in Savannah

Need pics
Did you use this schematic?
https://www.advanceautowire.com/tr2506.pdf

 

[TR3driver]

Red/red is the tail light circuit, while red/green is supposed to be the feed to the fuse for the tail light circuit. That fuse needs to be independent of the brown or white feeds.

 

[DNK]

Randall couldn't figure out from his description. how he has it wired

 

[TR3driver]

Randall couldn't figure out from his description. how he has it wired

I'm not quite sure how to explain better, Don. Basically he has expanded two of the original fuses so (presumably) there is one fuse for each device rather than one fuse for the entire circuit. So, for example, the original configuration had a single fuse fed by a white wire (controlled by the ignition switch) that in turn fed the wipers, heater, turn signals, brake lights, gauges etc. He now has 6 fuses, so one fuse for wipers, one for heater, etc.

However, the original fuse setup was 3 different circuits, not just two as his new setup is. So, the red wire going to the "white" side means the tail lights come on with the ignition. I didn't figure out the other path, but I'll bet it has something to do with the red/green connected into what should be the purple circuit (fused version of the brown circuit). He'll need to find some way to set up a single fuse fed only by the red/green wire to make it work right. Perhaps that will be as simple as rewiring the new fuse panel; but many of them come with the input side pre-wired, so he may need to use a separate fuse.

 

[Jims71TR]

Randall couldn't figure out from his description. how he has it wired

I'm not quite sure how to explain better, Don. Basically he has expanded two of the original fuses so (presumably) there is one fuse for each device rather than one fuse for the entire circuit. So, for example, the original configuration had a single fuse fed by a white wire (controlled by the ignition switch) that in turn fed the wipers, heater, turn signals, brake lights, gauges etc. He now has 6 fuses, so one fuse for wipers, one for heater, etc.

However, the original fuse setup was 3 different circuits, not just two as his new setup is. So, the red wire going to the "white" side means the tail lights come on with the ignition. I didn't figure out the other path, but I'll bet it has something to do with the red/green connected into what should be the purple circuit (fused version of the brown circuit). He'll need to find some way to set up a single fuse fed only by the red/green wire to make it work right. Perhaps that will be as simple as rewiring the new fuse panel; but many of them come with the input side pre-wired, so he may need to use a separate fuse.

That's just what I did. I did not read anywhere that the red/green was a separate power source. I knew it fed the red/red but was not sure where it got power from. I try to separate it from the white feed and get back to you guys.
Thanks
Jim

 

[DNK]

Do you have a good schematic like I asked

 

[Jims71TR]

Yes and I still can not figure it out. What I'm going to do is put the old glass tube fuse panel back in & have an additional panel for the electric fan, stereo, fog lights & Aux power plug. What I need now is a picture of a 69 - 71 fuse pannel to see how it was originally put together.
Thanks
Jim

 

[DNK]

Just like the schematic shows.
You should still have all the wires there unless you hacked em

 

[Jims71TR]

Just like the schematic shows.
You should still have all the wires there unless you hacked em

Don
This shot shows one white wire attached. The schematic has three white wires. So do I attach all three white wires to the same fuse? The schematic also doesn't say which fuses are hot w/the ign off & which are hot w/the ign key on? My old fuse panel had a jumper from one fuse (Brown) to another. I know the Brown wire is a hot lead from the battery. Is the jumper an add-on or did it come the factory like that?
Jim

 

[DNK]

It really does. You have to follow the wires.
In an LBC car the brown is almost always the battery feed and is hot all the time.

That's why that feeds the purple on the other side of the fuse . Those can be turned on with out the car running.horn,hazard lights,...

The white wires are ignition wires and are hot with the car running and that is why the other side is the green wires that feed stuff you can't use unless it is running wipers,signals,heater motor...

The bottom is fed thru the the light switch that gets it's power thru the B/U , I think to power the tail lamps and such (little fuzzy on that one)

To answer your white wire question, I think there should be at least 2.
Ignition switch and coil.
There could be another.
We need Kevin to chime in too. He has a 69 also

 

[TR3driver]

Dan's schematic only shows 2 white wires to the fuse block; but I'd go ahead and connect all 3. Or leave it off and then you can find out what it powers

The brown jumper sounds like an add-on, originally the 4th fuse position was vacant but someone may have added a radio or similar that needed constant power.

Don's on-target about the bottom fuse in the clip he posted. It gets power from the headlight switch (only when it's turned to the first or second positions), and the red wires power the tail lamps, marker lamps, dash light rheostat, etc.

https://i258.photobucket.com/albums/hh260/TR3driver/Manual%20pages/TR669colorwiringfromDanMasters.jpg

 

[Jims71TR]

Thanks everyone. Last night I re-installed the stock use panel and everything is working correct. The stock panel only has my white/green red-green/red wires. I have the newer fuse panel for my brown & all my extra's electric fan, stereo, fog lights and aux outlet.
Jim

 

[DNK]

If you have your brown to the fan , then you can set your fan to run after the car is off,ala foreign jobbers.
Don't think I would want my fogs on em though,except to power the relay maybe...