I learned many things today, about HVLP guns and ethc primer and build primer,etc. One thing to watch out for with these cheap guns is that they seem to lay down paint well, but the screw on plastic cap on top of the plastic cup that holds the paint has a little valve thing on top and this valve thing came off during the middle of painting and I did not know it and I got 4 good sized drips on the hood /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif I hav eyet to find this plastic piece but will look for it when I can, too tired for now and tomorrow will be busy. I would suggest to any who use the hvlp to tie a rag around the cup somewhere to catch any drips that might come out the top. I used to tie one around the old style paint guns where the cup screwed up the bottom just in case, but I had forgotten that lesson. My paint gun came with an aluminium cup also but I chose to use the plastic one. Also, I knew nothing of the needle sizes(and still really don't) I used a 1.4 to paint this car. This did not seem to fan out a big enough area and I had to get real close(although with HVLP you have to get closer anyways). I also had the needle and cap and stuff for the 2.0 which I figure is much bigger. I think I am going to use it for the basecoat. Oh, and that primer filler was the bomb, I wonder how long it has been around. It could cover and fill the grand canyon and its almost impossible to get a run with it. Good stuff, but you have to stay real close to the car cause it dries almost instantly.