Quick rear brake question

[JPSmit]

So, I'm reassembling the rear brakes. I have all the new pads etc. laid out before me. Bentley is clear that the "long end" of the top spring goes top left (when looking at the brakes) Does the long end of the spring also go into the hole at that end of the lever for the emergency brake? It doesn't appear to on the other brake (which I wisely haven't dismantled) Does this question make any sense? also, it seems like the top spring might interfere with the emergency brake lever - or will this go away when all is installed?

TIA JP

 

[Sportsdoc]

There are two small round holes just below and toward the outer edge of the slots for the handbrake lever where the springs attach. It looks like it might interfere with the lever but I don't think it makes any difference.

 

[tosoutherncars]

I took a photo of mine before I disassembled... Let's see here.

That's passenger-side, as I remember it. Hope that helps. Feel free to post any hints, I'll be doing this on Thursday.

 

[jlaird]

As I remember both springs go on the inside of the shoes.

 

[Bugeye58]

Correct, Jack. Inside out. And, I do believe the front shoe is on upside down.
Jeff

 

[DrEntropy]

IIRC: The E-brake link goes in the "slotted" hole for rear and pulls to the center with the "odd" hole on the leading (front) one. And both upper and lower springs mount inside the shoes.

Assembling the top spring and shoes then "introducing" them to the cylinder, e-brake linkage, etc. then placing the bottom spring thru the holes and "moosing" the shoes into the adjuster ("bottomed out") works for me.

If that's the starboard side, the trailing shoe is upside-down, the lower spring is onna wrong side of the shoes.

 

[jlaird]

Upside down, damb, I missed that. Not sure I even see it now. Sigh.

 

[JPSmit]

Thanks all for the quick replies - I think this is right - https://www.flickr.com/photos/10772705@N05/1122382070/ please confirm. I really appreciate the upside down comments as I was using the drivers side as my example and would have missed it. My initial question had to do with the top left where the emergency brake comes through. That piece (of the emergency brake) has a hole drilled in it. I wasn't sure whether I was supposed to put the long end of the spring in the hole - but - it doesn't seem to fit naturally so I don't think so. Also - notice how the top spring is right up against (and actually deflected by) the emergancy brake piece - I hope this is OK. Let me know or it will be me plowing into you at Missouri next year /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif

Thanks again all - almost as good as having you in the garage looking over my shoulder. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/cheers.gif

 

[Sportsdoc]

Wow. My shoes were installed both upside down relative to this picture. I'm glad I saw this before this weekend.

 

[tosoutherncars]

My brake shoes were on inside out *AND* backward? Eesh, the DPO just dropped yet another notch in my books... Thanks guys.

 

[Sportsdoc]

My car is like the box of chocolates quote...you never know what you're going to find.

 

[JPSmit]

Before anyone judges their own, can someone please confirm that mine is correct? Passenger side BTW

thanks
JP

 

[Bugeye58]

JP, yours looks just fine.
Jeff

 

[DrEntropy]

I have a question: It's been a LONG time since I had the drums off a Spriget, so bare with me... Shouldn't the springs be on opposite ends? Meaning; the one on top with the accomodation for the adjuster should be onna bottom where the adjuster IS? Same orientation, just moved to the lower position, small diameter one at top.


...just tryin' to sort out what I (vaguely) remember.


EDIT: nevermind! The top has the extension to tension the E-brake lever correctly. Jeff's right, JP. It looks fine.... sorry.

 

[JPSmit]

thanks guys

 

[Sportsdoc]

Another question as I'm looking at my new shoes. The lining extends to one end of the shoe, but stops about an inch short of the other end. Since the brake cylinder expands out both sides pushing the shoes against the drum, most of the wear should occur toward the upper part of the shoes since the bottom of the shoes does not expand, correct?

So why would you have one shoe with lining to the upper edge on one side of the brake cylinder and one shoe with exposed metal on the other?

Does this make sense?

 

[DrEntropy]

With the adjuster at the proper distance the clearance from drum-to-material is less than 1/16" typically. The "trailing" shoe WOULD wear heavily if it had material on that last inch, as the cylinder would have it engage the drum at it's "tip" so-to-speak. The way it is will more evenly distribute initial contact of the material to the drum. The leading shoe -does- wear at the top a bit more unevenly but as the shoes 'bed in' it evens out. If the brakes are not adjusted regularly you will see an increased wear at the cylinder ends of the shoes become more pronounced.

Clear as mud, huh? /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

 

[tony barnhill]

So, the end without lining should go towards the adjuster?

 

[tosoutherncars]

Leading edge of brake pad should be the end with the bare spot, according to my manual. Perhaps that's a simple way to say it? Look OK to everyone? This is for d/side.

 

[Bugeye58]

Looks good from here! After you install the park brake lever, that is. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/grin.gif
Jeff