• Hey there Guest!
    If you enjoy BCF and find our forum a useful resource, if you appreciate not having ads pop up all over the place and you want to ensure we can stay online - Please consider supporting with an "optional" low-cost annual subscription.
    **Upgrade Now**
    (PS: Subscribers don't see this UGLY banner)
Tips
Tips

Overdrive electrical diagnostics question

nevets

Jedi Knight
Country flag
Offline
I am attempting to conduct some basic diagnostics of the Overdrive electrical system and am consulting a tech brief from a 2007 issue of Austin Healey Magazine. There appears to be what I think is a typo in the article, but I am not sure. I attached a pic of the page in question with two lines highlighted. The discussion starts by describing how to diagnose the OD transmission switch, but then refers to the throttle switch. Which is it? Hopefully someone can help.
Thanks
 

Attachments

  • OD electrical.jpg
    OD electrical.jpg
    49.6 KB · Views: 75
Country flag
Offline
Looks like a typo to me. The 'throttle position switch' is only there to keep the O/D activated until the throttles are opened a certain amount; i.e. the drivetrain is being driven by the engine and not the rear wheels. If it's not working correctly the O/D will drop out as soon as the panel switch is moved to non O/D mode, which can result in reverse torque being applied to the drivetrain and possible damage to the O/D. Note the O/D relay can prevent the O/D from engaging, or cause it to cut in and out of O/D.

The shop manual has good O/D diagnostics; if in doubt check there (this writeup looks like just a rephrasing of the shop manual diagnostics).
 
OP
nevets

nevets

Jedi Knight
Country flag
Offline
Thanks for the reply. I'm venturing into unknown territory here. I am attempting to troubleshoot the electrical components with a jumper and a newly purchased multimeter. My hunch is that the solenoid is bad, but thought I would eliminate all the other, more accessible electrical components before removing the transmission tunnel (ugh).
 

BJ8Healeys

Jedi Warrior
Country flag
Offline
I am attempting to conduct some basic diagnostics of the Overdrive electrical system and am consulting a tech brief from a 2007 issue of Austin Healey Magazine. There appears to be what I think is a typo in the article, but I am not sure. I attached a pic of the page in question with two lines highlighted. The discussion starts by describing how to diagnose the OD transmission switch, but then refers to the throttle switch. Which is it? Hopefully someone can help.
Thanks

It is a typo, because the instructions are attempting to check the gearshift switch by bypassing the overdrive relay and connecting the gearshift switch and solenoid directly to 12 volts. However, there is another mistake in the instructions. The ground wire at the overdrive relay is connected to terminal W1, not terminal W2 as the instructions indicate. I would have said to pull off the wire at terminal C2 and connect the jumper wire between it and the fuse box terminal.

If you hear the solenoid clicking when you follow the procedure, then both the gearshift switch and solenoid are working. If you don't hear the click, it could be either the switch or the solenoid at fault (more likely the solenoid) and further investigation would be required.
 
Last edited:

BJ8Healeys

Jedi Warrior
Country flag
Offline
Another typo...that's a worry. Here's a link the the entire article, written by some Healey heavyweights.

https://www.healey6.com/Technical/Tech-OverdriveTroubleshooting.pdf

Even the Healey heavyweights can make mistakes. Two of those heavyweights wrote a Healey reference book and it has some errors, too.
The BMC shop manual shows terminal W1 of the overdrive relay connected to ground, not terminal W2 as shown in the article's diagram. I imagine that the labels on their diagram got reversed, and that led them to get it backwards in the text. Since W1 and W2 are the two ends of a small solenoid coil inside the relay, it shouldn't matter which is connected to ground, but make sure you know which one is on your car. Still, the BMC shop manual should be the standard.

I have another version of the overdrive electrics wiring diagram if you want it. Contact me at sbyers@ec.rr.com if you do.
 
Similar threads
Thread starter Title Forum Replies Date
T Overdrive question - electrical Triumph 14
R electrical shock when shifting to overdrive Spridgets 20
RickPA Overdrive Oil Pressure Austin Healey 8
bighealeysource Leaking Overdrive and Gearbox Drain Plugs Austin Healey 19
71TR6 TR6 Type-J Overdrive identification Triumph 4
luke44 TR2/3/3A Calling all Wiring experts TR3 Overdrive Wiring ver A or ver B or are they the same? Triumph 8
T Wanted Working overdrive unit Austin Healey Classifieds 2
D Overdrive Stops Working After Oil Change Austin Healey 26
S TR2/3/3A overdrive does not function Triumph 45
T TR2/3/3A A type overdrive hard engagement Triumph 36
S Overdrive Throttle Switch Austin Healey 4
KVH General Tech Overdrive--Afraid it's Serious Triumph 45
M Overdrive Pressure Test Austin Healey 2
BN6_2197 Gearbox/Overdrive Removal Austin Healey 25
T For Sale MGB Black Label Overdrive For Sale Or Trade For New RB Parts MG Classifieds 2
Fanch00 Non-Overdrive Benefits? Austin Healey 10
AUSMHLY BJ8 Overdrive Oil Passages Austin Healey 2
R TR6 J-Type overdrive will not disengage when warm Triumph 8
S Overdrive Relays Austin Healey 2
AUSMHLY Overdrive Buffer Pad Austin Healey 3
L Stuck in Overdrive Austin Healey 10
AUSMHLY Flushing the Transmission/Overdrive Austin Healey 7
T Weight of BJ7 Transmission/Overdrive Austin Healey 10
P Overdrive Not Engaging Austin Healey 4
S BJ8 Overdrive Stays Engaged Austin Healey 35
AUSMHLY BJ8 Overdrive Accumulator Spring Tube Austin Healey 1
RonC TR2/3/3A J Type Overdrive in TR3A Triumph 4
AUSMHLY BJ8 Overdrive Pressure Loss Austin Healey 11
AUSMHLY BJ8 Overdrive Oil Pressure Austin Healey 14
John Turney Overdrive Pump Austin Healey 6
S Removing Overdrive Shaft Lever Pin Austin Healey 7
nevets Reversing With Overdrive "On" Austin Healey 8
Healey Nut Overdrive Relay Austin Healey 1
T Clutch or Overdrive Slip Austin Healey 8
G TR4/4A "Engine seized after engaging overdrive at low speed. Triumph 26
A TR4/4A TR4 Overdrive Solenoid Triumph 19
H TR4/4A A-type overdrive pump Triumph 4
B COMPLETE DROP-IN Rebuilt 1975/6 MG Midget 1500 engine PLUS rebuilt Spitfire Overdrive trans NEVER INSTALLED Spridgets Classified 2
Rob Glasgow New Fangled Electric Overdrive Austin Healey 9
Got_All_4 TR6 Refurbishing gearbox with A type overdrive Triumph 7
J Transmission and Overdrive Rebuild Austin Healey 6
C Overdrive Failure Austin Healey 18
D TR2/3/3A Overdrive question. Triumph 49
ckeithjordan TR2/3/3A Overdrive Wiring Triumph 5
D TR2/3/3A Type A overdrive not engaging Triumph 0
D TR2/3/3A Type A overdrive not engaging Triumph 16
R TR2/3/3A Overdrive wiring installation Triumph 14
BN6_2197 Overdrive engaging with time delay Austin Healey 39
P Broken Overdrive Switch in Gear Knob Austin Healey 14
T Overdrive Problems Austin Healey 18

Similar threads

Top