Paint - codes and colour

[JPSmit]

Well, I just spent an hour on the phone with my body guy - he couldn't get a match with any of the codes I gave him. Including Telglerizer etc etc. He uses PPG and had the software which includes PPG/ ICI/ Nexum and ValuePro. After literally an hour, found this page. You may want to bookmark this one - only codes I could find that worked

https://www.mgf-tf-central.co.uk/paint_codes.htm

Also, my new favourite rattle can paint is PlastKote T-3 Hot Rod Black. It is a stunning matte black. It, matched with PlastKote T-5 clear leaves a finish that is as close to original as I have seen. I'm actually going to repaint stuff as I increasingly find the gloss black too shiny.

 

[zimmy]

will this help anything?....z

https://www.tcpglobal.com/aclchip.aspx?image=1974-ahmg-pg02.jpg

 

[JPSmit]

no - partly because it doesn't have Olde English White on the list but mostly because it has the Builder's paint number which the software wouldn't accept - cool page though - I love looking at stuff like that.

JP

 

[Whitephrog]

JP

The new Whitephrog will be painted OEW this week. My paint and body guy's supplier didn't seem to have a problem with the match. I'm going with a single stage paint. I gave them all the various code. I believe the supplier used the PPG code. I'll confirm that today.

 

[jlaird]

Did I not already give you guys the PPG numbers for OEW.

 

[JPSmit]

you did and his software wouldn't recognize it ;(

 

[jlaird]

Ha, he should have called his support guy at PPG. I know that is a good number, I have the can yet with a bit in it.

Shucks, how about a photo?

 

[JPSmit]

Ha, he should have called his support guy at PPG. I know that is a good number, I have the can yet with a bit in it.

Shucks, how about a photo?

Yes he should have but at 10pm would likely have got the answering machine

As for photos - don't you worry - as soon as I see, you'll see, probably quicker than when my kids came home from the hospital.

 

[jlaird]

Haha, I ment a photo of my can with the numbers and such.

But a photo of your project painted will do.

 

[jollyroger]

If you are trying to match an original sprite paint with a pre set color code...forget it. I spoke with Donald Healey about this very subject once many years ago. He of course said you can't match using the original formulas. "The painter on the line would paint a car red and then if the next car came along was tagged for blue, just poured blue in with the bit of red stirred it and painted the car". So you see all you guys out there trying to match your original paint using an formula will likely not find any kind of match outside of pure luck and if you match an existing color on the car it will be faded and won't look anything like it looked when new. I can go to any British car event and hear the guys claiming to have their paint matched to an original factory paint chip or panel from a car and have a bit of a giggle.

Cheers
Jolly
I am back

 

[drooartz]

Jolly! Good to see you back. :thumbsup:

 

[Sarastro]

If you are trying to match an original sprite paint with a pre set color code...forget it. I spoke with Donald Healey about this very subject once many years ago. He of course said you can't match using the original formulas. "The painter on the line would paint a car red and then if the next car came along was tagged for blue, just poured blue in with the bit of red stirred it and painted the car".

I love stories like this. It reinforces a point I make from time to time (but maybe not here yet): today, we're accustomed to have everything standardized, but back then, especially in the UK, there really was no sense that getting everything precisely uniform was necessary or even terribly important. This need for perfect standardization, where you get the same hamburger at a McDonalds in Detroit and at one in Los Angeles, just didn't exist. I wonder if today's super-standardization has really benefited us all that much.

 

[JPSmit]

Actually, I understand that even now with robots there are at least three shades - the last of the old shade, the first of the new shade and the new shade as it goes through the pipes. Have seen a color chart on ebay that had the variations of a color as it came through the pipes.

In a related story, the friend who helped me acquire Ms. Triss when he sent his big healey to be painted - went to see and was amazed at the color. The painter swore he matched it from the car. where? my friend asked? the hood hinge the painter replied - the only part on the entire car that my friend had painted with a rattle can to protect it - Toyota Red. Oh says the painter, we'll redo it - wait says my friend, we'll look again. still the same color and often wins shows as it has not a lot of orange like many British reds do

https://tinyurl.com/25ode5

 

[jlaird]

Well son of a gun JOLLY. Miss Agatha says hi.