TR6 TR6 engine replacement options ?

[Tinster]

I was wondering if anyone knows of a car engine
that might bolt onto an existing TR6 tranny.
Or one that might require just some minor
modifications to attach to the tranny. I do
know the engine mounts would be different.

I'm thinking maybe a small, reliable, V-6 that
I could pick up cheap at the auto graveyard.

Thanks, just thinking out loud. No, I have no interest
in going the V-8 route and all that a massive project like that entails.

regards,

d

 

[BobbyD]

Engine replacement Dale? Well there's lots of V6 and V8 conversions out there but none are really a "drop-in" replacement that I know of. But here's a site devoted to just British V8 conversions:
https://www.britishv8.org/Photos-Triumph-Conversions.htm

My favorite may be this TR6 with a BMW M3 engine

https://s115.photobucket.com/albums/n310/milemarker60/

 

[kodanja]

WHY DALE?

yours is so close

 

[JamesWilson]

WHY DALE?

And you'd be opening up a can of worms in terms of weight distribution, whether the bodywork will allow space for it to fit, the potential difficulties with cooling, routing the exhaust system, the effect of any power increases on the rest of the powertrain, possible difficulties in steering column placement, more braking needed to offset the more go, etc.

You've got to consider more than whether it'll just bolt in.

Quite a number of people have dropped V-8s into their Big Healeys to make "Nasty Boys" and the problems they've had to deal are likely to appear with any similar engine swap into a TR6.

I'm not a purist, but I'd think the problems and difficulties would reduce the appeal considerably....

 

[Tinster]

WHY DALE?

yours is so close

<span style="color: #000099">Just thinking out loud is all.
I've got a nice looking, owner restored TR6,
that could give me great enjoyment if it did not
break down all the time. But it does. I think I've
taken the existing engine just about as far as possible--
way out here in the middle of the ocean.

I was thinking a V-6 engine from a small SUV might
work. And I could get it serviced anywhere on the
island. I cannot get my TR6 serviced anywhere except
by me. We've seen the disaster my attempts have brought!!!

Just pondering ways to get my TR6 to a state of
reliability so I can drive it up into the mountains.

regards,

d</span>

 

[kodanja]

I dont know about that,

I think you would be making a big mistake JMHO!


maybe its time for a Miata!

 

[tomshobby]

If you would do something that drastic this is the best I have heard of, at least in my opinion.
https://www.bowtie6.com/engine.htm
Joe used a 60 degree v-6 and did a great job of it. It has turned out to be a great success.

 

[Brosky]

Maybe it's time for a trip to PR with an exorcism team.................

 

[DNK]

Get it serviced on the island. A lot of shops WON'T touch a car like that.

 

[LastDeadLast]

If you would do something that drastic this is the best I have heard of, at least in my opinion.
https://www.bowtie6.com/engine.htm
Joe used a 60 degree v-6 and did a great job of it. It has turned out to be a great success.

Yes, but Joe is pretty handy with metal fabrication tools also. I wouldn't touch an engine transplant unless I met one of two conditions:

1. I was bloody rich and could pay someone to do it for me
2. I was someone that was skilled at metal fabrication. (or had a VERY good friend with the same skill)

Dale, I don't think your problems are mechanical in nature so I honestly think that an engine transplant would be a monumental waste of money. These TR engines are some of the simplest engines out there and for the most part are no more or less prone to failure than any other engine of the same era.

Plus, if you go with a more modern power plant, you'll be dealing with fuel injection.. and you think your ignition system is complicated? Just wait.

If you do feel this way, then I think you should consider a Miata or a Pontiac Solstice. I think you'd be much happier since it would never break down. But admitedly you would lose much of the character that draws people to these old cars in the first place. These troubles are things that every owner of a classic car deals with in one way or another, so you need to decide for yourself if this is the route you want to take. There will always be something that breaks or needs tweaking, thats just the way it is.

 

[rchakr]

I have endured the continuing saga of the crypt car for many months now, and I have not come this far, to allow any talk of an engine swap. Your admiring public 'demands' that you fix your car and drive your car. Best wishes, Bob H.

 

[kodanja]

When did you purchace your car Dale?

I've had mine for 3 1/2 years now, it's just been recently that I've been able to actually enjoy it on the road. I still have issues with my TR6 but is'nt that half the fun of owning these little devils....

 

[tdskip]

In terms of trouble shooting and problem resolution the farther away from stock you go the harder it will be to get help.

I believe you have an unresolved fueling issue, which has to be easier to fix than trying to swap in another engine....

For $400 you could have a new/rebuilt set of carbs with a STOCK linkage. Worst case sell your existing carbs and linkage and it will likely fund a "do-over".

Or, you could focus on your fishing until one of us can get down there to help you sort the issues....

 

[Tinster]

Just under three years of breakdowns/repairs
with 1700 miles driven in total .

Everything in the engine compartment is either
brand new or has been rebuilt professionally.

I was thinking an engine swap was an easy thing.
SUV engines from wrecked cars are now a dime a dozen
with the cost of gas so high.

I was just pondering ways to get my car operational.
A shame to see it parked in the garage.

thanks all,

dale

 

[tdskip]

Dale - I think we are all deeply empathetic over how you must be feeling right now. I'm not as familiar with the car as you are obviously, but it seems like you have sorted the floors, engine bay, suspension, interior and just about everything else except for the fueling issue.

Sometimes it is good to just walk away for a month and then pick it back up.

Key thing is to only change one thing at a time or it becomes really hard to isolate problems.

 

[GeeBee1]

Dale

You have <span style="font-size: 17pt"><span style="color: #CC0000">GOT</span></span> to be kidding me, next you'll be shipping dolls by USPS to the big fifty.

 

[Tinster]

Dale

next you'll be shipping dolls by USPS to the big fifty.

<span style="color: #660000">Sorry ??????????????????????? Dolls ????? </span>

 

[angelfj1]

I'm ready and I have some miles I can cash in!

 

[angelfj1]

Dale, my friend: What makes you think that a transplant would be any more reliable. If what you have told us and what I know about the business practices in PR, where would you find a reliable shop who would/could perform the surgery?

I believe that your best option is to keep your shoulder to the wheel and fix what you have. Perhaps you need to modify your strategy and address ONE system at a time, then move on the the next, and so forth. BTW, what is the status of Amos right now? The last I had read was something that looked like a rich fuel mixture.

fja

p.s. when can I expect a reply to my PM?

 

[Tinster]

Dale, my friend:

p.s. when can I expect a reply to my PM?

Frank, I posted my response to your seat height question
in the Triumph forum as a "how to" maybe a week ago or so.

BTW- I WAS sorting out entire systems front to back. I had
multiple failures across systems and did not know it.

Ie- I replaced the entire fuel delivery system, a second time,
because I was not aware I had a failed dizzy condenser.
I had 75 miles or so on a new condenser when it failed. My bad.

I then also replaced almost all the ignition system not knowing
I had blown up the brand new condenser.

Right now? Clueless in Bayamon. Perhaps the car is operational?
Quien sabe? Crypty es El Coche de Diablo, seguro! Bien malo!

d