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Texas Cooler or not
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Bob_Spidell
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Looks like the TC I have.
Bobbydsport
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Looks like the TC I have also.
Bobbyd
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Rob Glasgow
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Yep looks like mine TC except mine was originally white when I purchased it 35 years ago. I recently painted it yellow.
Keoke
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Mine too. I have never seen one yellow unless it was painted.?
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Ditto. (I've been a member of the NTAHC, who sold them, since the club started)'
shortsguy1
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Moss sold a yellow version for a while. It is my understanding that the quality of the Moss version did not match the original.
Not painted and yellow plastic
I also have another yellow plastic one I bought in the UK - "Tourist Trophy" brand or something like that.
It is on the car now and will take it off tomorrow as part of the new rad job and post a pic. From what I can see as installed it is symmetrical
The bigger question is will a larger diameter stainless flex fan fit?
If not which moves more air the TC or a SS flex of the same diameter
Damm the noise, I want airflow
I also have another yellow plastic one I bought in the UK - "Tourist Trophy" brand or something like that.
It is on the car now and will take it off tomorrow as part of the new rad job and post a pic. From what I can see as installed it is symmetrical
The bigger question is will a larger diameter stainless flex fan fit?
If not which moves more air the TC or a SS flex of the same diameter
Damm the noise, I want airflow
Keoke
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which moves more air the TC or a SS flex of the same diameter
The SS flex fan.However there are so called good ones and bad ones.
Those fans that use only 3 rivets to attach the blade to the hub have demonstrated
damaging failure modes.
The fans that use 4 attacing rivets are considered good.
However, I value my fingers and you can.t give me one-TMOP
Additionally, some years ago a contestant showed up at Texas Healey Roundup with a SS fan blade thrown through his hood.?
I ain't aimin to influence you though its your choice.:highly_amused:
The SS flex fan.However there are so called good ones and bad ones.
Those fans that use only 3 rivets to attach the blade to the hub have demonstrated
damaging failure modes.
The fans that use 4 attacing rivets are considered good.
However, I value my fingers and you can.t give me one-TMOP
Additionally, some years ago a contestant showed up at Texas Healey Roundup with a SS fan blade thrown through his hood.?
I ain't aimin to influence you though its your choice.:highly_amused:
Lotuswins
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Hoghead,
I haven't seen a smaller water pump pulley, it would be nice, but since the pulley does double duty as a fan mount and a pulley, it is kind of special apparently. Converting to a more common hub, pulley, fan arrangement would help sourcing a pulley with the right depth. Sounds like a worthy endeavor.
I have done a few experiments with mechanical fans, and found that you only have depth for a 2 inch deep fan. I am currently running a 15 inch flexilite plastic fan that is 2 inches deep (model 415 I believe) and I have about 3/8 inch to the radiator tank in the front, and about 1/4 inch to the crankshaft pulley in the rear. I had a 14 inch Texas Cooler from Moss on previously, with the Kilmartin shroud and the flexalite fan with a custom shroud almost doubled the idle air flow (measured with my trusty german made car synchronizer).
BTW, were you going with a 3 row rad? I strongly suggest reconsidering to a 4 row design......my 3 row is really marginal, and I live in Oregon.....
I haven't seen a smaller water pump pulley, it would be nice, but since the pulley does double duty as a fan mount and a pulley, it is kind of special apparently. Converting to a more common hub, pulley, fan arrangement would help sourcing a pulley with the right depth. Sounds like a worthy endeavor.
I have done a few experiments with mechanical fans, and found that you only have depth for a 2 inch deep fan. I am currently running a 15 inch flexilite plastic fan that is 2 inches deep (model 415 I believe) and I have about 3/8 inch to the radiator tank in the front, and about 1/4 inch to the crankshaft pulley in the rear. I had a 14 inch Texas Cooler from Moss on previously, with the Kilmartin shroud and the flexalite fan with a custom shroud almost doubled the idle air flow (measured with my trusty german made car synchronizer).
BTW, were you going with a 3 row rad? I strongly suggest reconsidering to a 4 row design......my 3 row is really marginal, and I live in Oregon.....
I had overheating issues for years. Even had a Flex a lite fan that made it worse. Don't ask...
My winning formula (after much research):
1. Proper (sleeved) thermostat.
2. Re-cored radiator.
3. Texas Cooler fan from Moss.
4. Fan Shroud from British Car Specialists.
5. Spal electric pusher fan in front of the radiator. Good for stop-and-go traffic. Spal brackets used for mounting.
6. Radiator Overflow Tank. Used, brass from an MG.
I've been happy so far with this combination.
Thanks to Randy Forbes, John at BCS
My winning formula (after much research):
1. Proper (sleeved) thermostat.
2. Re-cored radiator.
3. Texas Cooler fan from Moss.
4. Fan Shroud from British Car Specialists.
5. Spal electric pusher fan in front of the radiator. Good for stop-and-go traffic. Spal brackets used for mounting.
6. Radiator Overflow Tank. Used, brass from an MG.
I've been happy so far with this combination.
Thanks to Randy Forbes, John at BCS
Keoke
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I haven't seen a smaller water pump pulley, it would be nice
Jerry:
On the early cars using 3/8" belts just run a pump with a 1/2'' pulley this set up emulates a smaller pulley since the belt rides farther down in the 1/2" pulley groove.
On later cars using 1/2" belts you have to change the vibration damper and belt to a 3/8" it is interesting to note here the generator speed will be increased just a bit too.
Jerry:
On the early cars using 3/8" belts just run a pump with a 1/2'' pulley this set up emulates a smaller pulley since the belt rides farther down in the 1/2" pulley groove.
On later cars using 1/2" belts you have to change the vibration damper and belt to a 3/8" it is interesting to note here the generator speed will be increased just a bit too.
Lotuswins
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Keoke,
Thanks so much for pointing the pulley differences out. Apparently unaware at the time, I installed a 1/2 inch balancer with a 3/8 inch waterpump pulley, and 3/8 inch belt.....Dooh! No wonder the A/C compressor was making the belt slip under heavy load (which has a 1/2 inch pulley too). So I can gain a little by finding a 1/2 inch water pump pulley & belt while also gaining some belt loading too..... more fun...fortunately all is apart now for radiator replacement.
Thanks so much for pointing the pulley differences out. Apparently unaware at the time, I installed a 1/2 inch balancer with a 3/8 inch waterpump pulley, and 3/8 inch belt.....Dooh! No wonder the A/C compressor was making the belt slip under heavy load (which has a 1/2 inch pulley too). So I can gain a little by finding a 1/2 inch water pump pulley & belt while also gaining some belt loading too..... more fun...fortunately all is apart now for radiator replacement.
I have all of these bits now but for the rad which is happening next week and the pusher fan
Does the Spal fit without and mods and if so do you recall the model number. Do these not have spiral blades? - if so note the comments on the Tiger article
Will look into a 4 core rad
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm dclrg spaeks rather disparagingly about the flexilite?
If a 15 Flexilite will double the airfow with my same set up then that attracts my attention!
Bob_Spidell
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A little off-topic, but anybody know why Austin switched from the 3/8" belt to a 1/2" belt? Obviously, the 1/2" must be stronger, but were the 3/8" belts breaking?
