I hate MG people because......

[DrEntropy]

Whithin the family:"Yeah -she's kinda ugly!"

- Doug

...and then only if she's within earshot. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

 

[IanF]

Baldrick, for all of his faults... is actually the quickest starting of our 6 [running] cars. Except maybe my TDI when I've had it on the engine coolant heater.

1. 1800ES... starting requires a "process"... turn the key on/off at least three times to presurize the FI system... engange the starter... maybe the engine will stumble to life, puttering for 1/2 a second befroe dieing... repeat... the second time will usally be good and the car will lope into a clattering idle... Some day I'll pull the cold-start injector and make sure it's working properly... might be the cause of the hard starting.

2. The '03 MCS. Has the common "cold-start stumble" typical of new MINI's... cranks - fires - stumbles and stalls... refire and it runs fine. BMW/MINI denies that it's a problem. makes me wonder if they're snickering behind our backs saying, "well, you wanted a proper British car, didn't you?" Dang thing sure does leak oil like a proper British car...

3. '07 MCc. Starts after a few cranks and runs fine as a new car with less than 4K miles should...

4. '95 Dodge Cummins. If I've driven it somewhat recently, it will start almost instantly. Not bad for 250K+ miles. However, there's a slight leak (very slight) in the injector feed rails and if it sits for awhile it loses pressure so it takes a couple of cranks for the pressure to rebuild. Then it fires and idles fine.

5. '03 TDI. When warm (or when ambient is warm) it will fire darn near instantly. When cold (around 40F) it cranks a couple of times even after letting the glow plugs cycle. Fires isntantly if I can plug it in overnight.

6. And then there's Baldrick... Featuring his barely in tune 1500 with a OE Z-S running stupid-rich and a thermo-choke and idle speed valve both in need of rebuilding. Get in, hit the key, and will fire and idle pretty quickly. If warm, fires darn near instantly.

7. My 1800ES hasn't started/run in a couple of years... no battery... fuel (leaking out of holes in the tank onto the garage floor) smells like varnish... /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/nonod.gif

 

[jdubois]

1. 1800ES... starting requires a "process"... turn the key on/off at least three times to presurize the FI system... engange the starter... maybe the engine will stumble to life, puttering for 1/2 a second befroe dieing... repeat... the second time will usally be good and the car will lope into a clattering idle... Some day I'll pull the cold-start injector and make sure it's working properly... might be the cause of the hard starting.

Hmm, that's a Bosche D-Jet system, right? With that having to turn the key on/off sequence, sounds like maybe a bad time switch for the fuel pump? If the car runs fine when warmed up, it's gotta be that or the CSI as you mentioned, or the AAV, right? Unlike the K-Jet systems (which make me tear my hair out), I don't think there's much else to the cold-start circuit on those things.

 

[terriphill]

so, I am truly a nemesis...an MGB and a TR7-that wedge looking thing that most won't acknowledge as a Triumph.

Hey...we love the wedge and wneh we decide to come over to the "dark side" ..we will probably start with the little wedge! (but hey, I love the rubber bumpers too..so what does that say?)

 

[IanF]

Hmm, that's a Bosche D-Jet system, right? With that having to turn the key on/off sequence, sounds like maybe a bad time switch for the fuel pump? If the car runs fine when warmed up, it's gotta be that or the CSI as you mentioned, or the AAV, right? Unlike the K-Jet systems (which make me tear my hair out), I don't think there's much else to the cold-start circuit on those things.

It could be the fuel pump. It started making some noise earlier this year. We bought an aftermarket EFI pump from Summit that I plan to make work. The $400 folks want for the correct Bosch pump is just insane... if it was a visible part, I could see it... but it's just a fuel pump... I'll probably pull the CSI in the spring and see what I can do with it.

The AAV works as I can notice a drop in idle RPM as the engine warms up... actually, the only way I know it's warm as the temp gauge still doesn't work...

Still have a lot to do to Baldrick over the Winter, although not as much as last Winter...

 

[roofman]

I have owned a GT6+, a TR7, and about 5 TR6's. I also appreciate many other marks. Before I die, I hope to own an original Mini, a 240Z, maybe another GT6 or an MGB-GT, and maybe a 1971-72 Monte Carlo. Real car guys don't care what others are into, as long as they are into something. For what ever reason each of us is fond of our cars, and who are we to say what sparked something in someone else? A car guy, is a car guy, period. Whether it's LBC's, muscle cars, model A's, or whatever! Have fun.

 

[angelfj1]

Maybe my imagination, but there seems to be a definite LBC pecking order.

My perspective is:
1. Jag
2. A-H (big)and Lotus(any)
3. TR, Morgan
4. MG
5. all others (but not the exotic stuff like Aston-Martin, and other high end British marques)

Starting at the top, Jag owners seem to look down their noses at everyone else. This is followed by A-H (big), etc, etc, etc.

This is based on 45 years of people watching at car shows and related gatherings

Another indication, is the price that a Jag owner will pay for a Lucas or other British accesory part with a Jag part number compared to what <u>WE</u> pay for the same part with a TR part number. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

 

[MadRiver]

After all, they are ALL little British cars and I for one, love all of them!

Basil

I agree...I think my goal is to own one of each! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/crazyeyes.gif

Right on!

 

[MadRiver]

Maybe my imagination, but there seems to be a definite LBC pecking order.

My perspective is:
1. Jag
2. A-H (big)and Lotus(any)
3. TR, Morgan
4. MG
5. all others (but not the exotic stuff like Aston-Martin, and other high end British marques)

I've always had the same theory, and pretty much the same order, but with one modification. Aston sits at the very top.

 

[kodanja]

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[angelfj1]

Bill: Read the list again. I agree that Aston Martin is in a class of its own.

 

[jdubois]

Real car guys don't care what others are into, as long as they are into something.

Hear, hear! I enjoy the jovial ribbing that different car owners give each other. But I've never understood the bitterness, anger, and contempt I've seen in some people. Geez, all cars (heck, anything with an engine, really) are neat. Even if it's not exactly what stirs my excitement, I always get a charge out of talking to somebody who loves their machine.

 

[kc_doyle]

I agree. When we belonged to a Triumph club in Milwaukee and there was a Brit day. That's kinda the way it seemed to go. How ever at every stop, the first thing the Jag people did was to raise the bonnet to let the steam escape.

 

[kodanja]

Bill: Read the list again. I agree that Aston Martin is in a class of its own.

I also agree bout the Aston Martins being the elite'

 

[AngliaGT]

I think the Ford Cortinas are about 45 on the list.
It's nice not having the pressure of trying to be cool.
I usually take the Cortina to car shows because if people
talk to you,they're either A.)Interested,or B.) Curious.

- Doug

 

[MadRiver]

Bill: Read the list again. I agree that Aston Martin is in a class of its own.

Hahahahahaha! Now I see it. D'oh! I'm just going to say that it's too many years breathing in old car fumes and leave it at that... /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/blush.gif

 

[Guest]

Triumph sits at the top of my bias list. Everything else to me is just another LBC.

1: Triumph
2: Any other British marque

It's a short list.

 

[RobT]

Maybe my imagination, but there seems to be a definite LBC pecking order.

My perspective is:
1. Jag
2. A-H (big)and Lotus(any)
3. TR, Morgan
4. MG
5. all others (but not the exotic stuff like Aston-Martin, and other high end British marques)

I think the ranking is a fair one (though in Australia and other countries where Triumph saloons were sold, I would probably have flipped the MG/TR order)

Having now owned both Triumphs and a Lotus, I am not sure I would group the Lotus folks with A-H, or anyone for that matter. A couple of things I've noticed about Lotus owners (and no offence intended) is that they all seem to be nerds (of the nicest kind of course). Lots of engineers and technical types (am a Ginger Beer meself so not a complaint!). Also they really don't seem concerned with originality - something it seems that other LBC owners can get a bit obsessive about at times. I think it may be something to do with the origins of Lotus, and may be the ghost of Colin Chapman living on in the owners of Lotus' today.

Anyway excuse the generalities, but thought I'd just share my observations on the breed.

Rob.

 

[jdubois]

1: Triumph
2: Any other British marque

I keep trying to tell myself that's not true for me, but in my heart I've got to admit I've got the same list.

 

[kodanja]

I want two of each

1 to drive!
1 to keep in my garage!

Ill have to get a bigger garage!