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Garage plans?

We have a 2 car attached garage for the daily drivers. But my shop is separate, detached building.

I started by building a 24x24 1-1/2 story "barn." The bottom floor has 9'6" ceilings and I added a Bend-Pak 4 post lift on one side. It has just enough room to store 2 cars, better if the TR3 goes up top, top off with the windshield fit between the rafters. I only do it this way over the winter and has worked well. The garage door is a double wide barn style split slider. I can open one side or both.

The garage has copper plumbed air from the compressor to 3 locations, each has it's own water separator, no oilers. Also DirecTV and ethernet, and two zone sound system, two speakers and sub on the main barn and same on the addition. The other 1/2 of the barn is setup as a workshop for the cars. Workbench, drill press, lathe, etc. I have a separate wood shop in my cellar so no wood dust in this building usually.

I heat the barn with a woodstove in one corner. Electrical is from a 60 amp panel with 8 breakers fed from the main house. 220V for the compressor.

The loft has a 12 foot high peak with tons of storage and a big barn style loft door on one end over looking the rear property.

Last year I built a 14' wide addition, one story shed-style with a small storage area on the high side of the roof and an insulated overhead door. I just needed more room. Turns out this side is mostly used for my tractor but in the winter when the tractor resides in the attached garage, I can roll cars (on skates) between the original barn and the addition if needed. I can even squeeze two cars side by side in there. I added 1 additional air drop, copper piped with the same pressure regulator, water separators from HF.

Both the addition and the loft have industrial 56" ceiling fans. No couch or refrigerator and no sheetrock! This is all wood and smells great between the pine and British car smells.

Windows are a big plus. In the addition I added a 4x4 slider on the rear wall and 3 cellar window style tilt out on the outside wall.

I also have a full security system with door contacts, PIR motion and glass break detector. This part should not be overlooked.

No floor drains because code was very specific about drains in auto shops. But there was an existing grey water dry well on my property so I plumbed a laundry sink to it and I feed the sink with a hose in the summer. The sink is GREAT and I use it all the time.
 
Photos next.

I built this myself with help from a couple of friends. But I had the pros do the slab. It is a modern post and beam design using treated 6x6 posts.

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AngliaGT said:
JodyFKerr said:
Check your zoning laws. See what you're allowed to get away with. I.E. In some places installing a bathroom makes it "liveable space" and is taxable as such.

If I had my druthers here's what I'd do. Make it at least 1.5 stories tall (preferrably 2) and double the car length deep. Get a working lift at one end and a four post storage lift at the other end.

Add plenty of working counter top, and storage (I like the chrome baker's shelves). Put in a mammoth air compressor and run hardline around the building with quick couplers. Heating & A/C are *very nice*. Make sure you've got plenty of outlets wired and *lots* of good lighting.

The nice amentities are fridge, coffee maker, wireless internet, couch, and flatscreen TV. :smile:

That's a w** dream.I wish I could do that.

- Doug

That was my reaction too. I actually know a guy with this exact setup. He lives on top of a mountain in the CA gold country.
 
PeterK said:
We have a 2 car attached garage for the daily drivers. But my shop is separate, detached building.

I started by building a 24x24 1-1/2 story "barn." The bottom floor has 9'6" ceilings and I added a Bend-Pak 4 post lift on one side. It has just enough room to store 2 cars, better if the TR3 goes up top, top off with the windshield fit between the rafters. I only do it this way over the winter and has worked well. The garage door is a double wide barn style split slider. I can open one side or both.

The garage has copper plumbed air from the compressor to 3 locations, each has it's own water separator, no oilers. Also DirecTV and ethernet, and two zone sound system, two speakers and sub on the main barn and same on the addition. The other 1/2 of the barn is setup as a workshop for the cars. Workbench, drill press, lathe, etc. I have a separate wood shop in my cellar so no wood dust in this building usually.

I heat the barn with a woodstove in one corner. Electrical is from a 60 amp panel with 8 breakers fed from the main house. 220V for the compressor.

The loft has a 12 foot high peak with tons of storage and a big barn style loft door on one end over looking the rear property.

Last year I built a 14' wide addition, one story shed-style with a small storage area on the high side of the roof and an insulated overhead door. I just needed more room. Turns out this side is mostly used for my tractor but in the winter when the tractor resides in the attached garage, I can roll cars (on skates) between the original barn and the addition if needed. I can even squeeze two cars side by side in there. I added 1 additional air drop, copper piped with the same pressure regulator, water separators from HF.

Both the addition and the loft have industrial 56" ceiling fans. No couch or refrigerator and no sheetrock! This is all wood and smells great between the pine and British car smells.

Windows are a big plus. In the addition I added a 4x4 slider on the rear wall and 3 cellar window style tilt out on the outside wall.

I also have a full security system with door contacts, PIR motion and glass break detector. This part should not be overlooked.

No floor drains because code was very specific about drains in auto shops. But there was an existing grey water dry well on my property so I plumbed a laundry sink to it and I feed the sink with a hose in the summer. The sink is GREAT and I use it all the time.

That looks really nice. Any shots of the interior?
 
tinman58 said:
Make it BIG. With a heater and A/C . A fridge and bathroom. The rest will follow.

The rest will follow? <grin> Like moving into the g'rage and renting out the now-useless house?
 
That was my reaction too. I actually know a guy with this exact setup. He lives on top of a mountain in the CA gold country. [/quote]

His name wouldn't be Dave B.,would it?

Also,you can never have enough electrical outlets,& put them about
4ft high,so they don't get buried.

- Doug
 
ArcticOne said:
DO NOT BE EXTRAVAGANT. Unless you plan on living in the garage what value are flat screen TV's and a couch, etc. in a garage? Include what you need, but forego the extras until needed.
jb

I agree with you to a point. You don't need to spend a ton of money on it, but a TV in the garage is nice. It gives you the chance to watch racing (or whatever) while getting work done in the garage. I spent $40 on a used 31" tube-type from my neighbor across the street. On the other hand a flat-screen would have less glare when the overhead doors are open.....
 
JodyFKerr said:
The other recommendation I have: Hot water! When I replumbed SWMBO's laundry room I added a hot and cold line into the garage. Having that hot water comes in *very handy*!

Jody

Going along with the hot water - also consider a toilet or at a bare minimum a wash station (lessens the chances of hand prints everywhere).

I may not agree with the TV (I don't watch any TV) but possibly consider room for a computer / monitor so that you can easily reference technical info as well as keep up to speed with everything on British Car Forum!! Why not install a webcam so we can all watch over your cars too??

jb
 
I scanned through without reading too much detail, so, if it hasn't been mentioned, in floor heating in zones is very neat and uses way less power. A drive through bay is helpful. Two shops that I particularly admire have side spaces for tools - alcoves about 10X20. Finally, I would have a lean to shed on the outside for the compressor and a blast cabinet.
 
I'd also recommend checking what others have done over at garagejournal.com - it's amazing what some have come up with. Here's mine.
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still need a jealous emoticon
 
71MKIV said:
still need a jealous emoticon

+1 you're not going to hear a sermon out of these lips on "thou shalt not covet" when there is real estate like that floating around.
 
We are in the process of building a detached garage. I call it the garagemajal. Tomorrow is for putting in the lift, electricians will be finishing the final connections, plumbers finishing their finals. It is hoped that we will be able to turn on the lights and open the water taps on Saturday. It is 40X40 with three bays. The center bay is where the 4 post lift is and it has a commercial door - straight up. As this made the garage very tall, we took the back section and created a 15X17 loft which is going to be the 'media' room. There are 4 rooms in the back that connect to the garage with french doors and the left room is the office with a window looking into the garage area, the right room is for just sitting and the center is a kitchenette and a full bathroom (shower, toilet and sink). Husband acid etched the entire floor and this will stay in the kitchenette and bathroom. The loft and the other two rooms will be carpeted. As we wanted this to complimeent our home, it is a wood frame building with log siding that matches the log of our home and the metal roof matches as well. House is a real log home but it was cost prohibitive to do a log garage. Mechanical room has a/c, heat, water softener and compressor. Air lines were installed in construction as was the electrical for the lift. We have tried to think of everything but I am sure we will find something that we should have added or something we shouldn't have done. When it is completed if you're interested I will post photos.

Obviously we are very excited and husband has waited 13 years to have it built. Sometimes you just get lucky and in this case had we tried to do it a couple of years ago it would have cost considerably more money but given that state of the construction industry, costs were a lot less than was quoted then.

I can't believe I have come off like a 'gusher' but in saying this I can see that it really is a big deal! Just spending the kid's inheritance and having a grand time doing it. As designer and husband is allowing me to do this I've opted to keep an aviation theme in mind. That's another story.
 
nice! .... sigh
 
I had a 3 car, attached garage built last year. The best advice I could impart would be to properly insulate the structure with the best available materials.

My garage (with no HVAC) has the slab insulated with blown-in foam everywhere else. In the depth of winter (and we have pretty cold winters here - temps in the teens are not uncommon) it did not go below 45 degrees. 45 is warm enough to work comfortably. It gets a bit warm in summer, but that's what my big fan is for!

Also, being so well insulated it is very tight. Outside moisture is minimized. I do run a $200 dehumidifier in the summer to keep the humidity level below 50%.

Insulate it the best you can. It will pay you back later. :yesnod:
 
All,

Sorry hadn't noticed this thread had moved over here. Thanks for all the posts. This project probably won't happen until next year but wanted to get started on gathering information.

I like pictures as it helps me visualize what people have done with the space (BTW Jay, also jealous and apparently you like red cars? :smile:)

In addition to the cars and motorcycle, I do need to keep part storage in mind as well as I've got boxes of parts (some new parts for one of the TR4A's as well as used parts such as fenders, trunk lids, transmissions, etc) that I'll need to store too.

Scott
 
THIS garage belongs to a guy in our Healey club. The spaces are also TWO cars deep.

In addition, he has a 2 car garage attached to each end of the house.

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Tim
 
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