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I agree. Sometimes when you are struggling there is just too much info. I have a friend, if you were to ask what time it is, he would tell you how to build a clock. Hang with it Dale, I know that you can get through it.
 
BLARGH!

I thought the engine mounts could support the
engine independent of the tranny. Right now the
rear of the engine oil pan is resting on wood
on a jack. What must I do before I move the car
by flatbed?
 
Shawn:

The boss says 21 days notice required to
book the FF tickets.

Crytpy ain't going anywhere soon and there's a
mighty fine weed line just off shore that running
hot with Mahi Mahis. And in between I got a few "for
pay" stuff I gotta do.
 
Dale-

First, I'm completely with Art on the way forward- I think you are better off to work it offline with a couple of willing forum members, then give everyone the occasional update.

Second, my opinion only - if you are serious about moving the car, I'd either reinstall the trans (without clutch, just a few holding bolts) to stabilize the engine, or pull the engine entirely. You don't want the engine to break free during any kind of haul.

Randy
 
This whole project just gets worse and worse
and worse!

Pull the engine I just spent 13 months getting
into running condition?

If I pull the engine apart, it will be to offer
free parts to forum members before I haul the carcass
off to The Crusher.

d

I'm logging off until tomorrow.
Too depressing.

Thanks everyone for your kind words, support
and suggestions.
 
Dale, one time I suspended my engine from the firewall with a Rube Goldberg apparatus that bolted into two of the top/side engine plate bolt holes that would be holding the tranny on. I came up from these, inside the engine compartment with some steel straps that I attached to a stout wooden cross bar resting on thick pads on the two tables on either side of the firewall. Make sense? It beats pulling the engine if you gotta move the car.
 
Now see Dale, this is exactly what I was talking about. There were three suggestions given, and you looked at one of them and decided that you can't stand what's going on. Yes, pulling the engine is extreme, but it is an alternative. That same poster suggested bolting up the tranny WITHOUT the clutch...a very good suggestion. It will be easy to slip in place, and only needs to be attached with maybe four to six bolts (after all, there were only three holding things together to begin with), lowered down onto the mount (won't even have to bolt it down), and away you go.

TR6Bill's approach also has merit, as that is another good way to handle the situation, but it does require some fabrication.

So, decide which is easiest for you, and stop dwelling on how lousey things are getting. We are here to help you, but at this time we need to have one or two guys step up and guide the Tinster through this behind the scenes.

Dale, you need a focused approach to this.
 
Tinster....
Don't go all PM on us now!
You're trials and tribulations have served to keep my car problems in perspective.
Besides; I like the pictures!
 
Yup, yer all correct,

I am one highly skilled in-the-field architect.
Of course I can design and build a simple support
rig for the engine rear. Piece of cake.

True, I lost my focus for a while there due to
another disappointment.

Tinster's back!

I'll go over tomorrow and measure crypty
for a Rube Goldberg engine support.

thanks all.

d
 
I'll chime in as another "distraction" and "second" Bill's fixture idea as the practical alternative. Pad the bases for a free-form crossmember and sling the rear of the unit. It ain't a F.L. Wright cantilever you need for this! And no need to duplicate effort by bolting/unbolting the box. Morelike a 4x4 and some stout ROPE!!
 
And in the most famous Frank Lloyd Wright cantilever they forgot to put in top steel (rebar) and they have been having problems with it ever since, so even the best have a bad day once in a while. Phil
 
I just got in late and am I glad to see we're back on track here. Between Bill's and Dale's issues, it was getting a bit depressing here.
 
hello tinster, allen here, while you have the tran apart,take the flywheel to a machine shop and have them make you some bend-over locks for the fly-wheel bolts,it may save you some trouble in the long-run.
 
Dale Check your Pm and then call Dave
 
Thanks Allen,

Been there and tried that. Flywheel bolts frozen to the
engine and cannot be removed with the tools I have
available. The flywheel seems ok and will remain.
 
Dave-

Kinda what I came up with but with angle iron and all-thread.

Also going to check out Bills suggestionn as well since I
have maybe ten feet of plastic coated 5/16" diameter steel cable.

PM'ed you back

d
 
Dale,
Why are you mickey mousing around with a temporary engine support? Take the 10-20 minutes needed to bolt the tranny back onto the engine. It will be good practice for you and insure you don't drop the engine in transit.

Ray
 
I had to have my other (project) TR6 carried on a rollback from where it sat for 28 years. I followed it for 5 miles and cringed everytime it hit a bump - the car would compress on its suspension then jump up against the chains they tied it down with.

I can't imagine any sort of rig that could hold the back end of a 500 lb engine up against that sort of treatment. Try what Ray said, or you could take just the trans home, sort out the clutch shaft & fork, and go back and install.

The phone package I have here lets me call anytime to any US territory; from Guam to Puerto Rico. Let me know if you want encougaging words.

Jeff
Honolulu, HI
74 TR6 CF13816U
 
Hey Jeff,

I brought the tranny home yesterday and
it's in my garage. So are all the clutch
components and Paul's driveshaft. Actually,
everything except the car hulk itself is
back in my garage.

I'm going to clean up the tranny, install the
oil seal and see if all the other clutch pieces
dry fit together.

Ray, no way am I able to re-install the tranny by
myself. There were only three bolts plus the starter
motor holding it in place. Even with that....

Something was really screwed up because it took me
ten minutes with a 6 foot long pry bar to get the tranny
seperated away from the engine rear. Yes, I had already
removed the tranny mount plate and twin bolts.

Much easier for me to fabricate an angle iron cross
piece and bolt the engine to it.

d
 
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