john, my windscreen is etched on the "outside" but is read from the "inside", i tried taking several high res. pictures last night under varying lighting conditions and couldnt get a single one clear of shadows,reflections etc, tonight im going to tape the area containing the logo, spray it with a release agent "pam" and fill the area with silicone caulk in an effort to create a "rubber stamp" that can then be used with an ink pad to render faithfull copys, dont try to stop me! i have to try this. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif