I am really confused now. Who exactly is it that I am supposed to hate, considering I own a TR3A, an MG TF and a Harley (and have had a number of each over the last 35 years)? Frankly, I really like them all. No doubt though that when driving the TR or MG, I get what might be considered to be smug looks from mostly Jag and Healey drivers. As for the Harley comment (which I didn't really like), I guess unless you have (or had) one, it really might be hard to understand their appeal. For me, its the fact that for the longest time, they were fairly basic and allow you to feel a connection to the vehicle like I do with English sports cars. Live and let live I guess.