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VTR 2007 in Valley Forge, PA this July

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/bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif Hi Folks: Well; I had the TR out with the Top down on Sun; Felt Great!! Looks like She`ll be out tomorrow with the Top down again; 67deg!! I believe this is Half the Fun of Attending a Show; (Regardless of Its size etc); "Half the Fun is Getting there in Your LBC":

Glen; I would Most likely pay $50.00 for a One Day Attendance and It would`nt have to be the Final Day (Show Day): I agree with Yourself that the Last Day is Probably the Most Boring Day! People typ. are in a Hurry to leave & get back Home; Especially If they have quite a Drive ahead of themselves: Therefore, The Gen. Public does`nt get the Pleasure of Viewing other LBC`s and Having a Chat with their Owners etc: "Everyone is typically in a "Hurry-Up" Mode: Give Me My Trophy and I`m Out of Here!!

Personally; I enjoy taking My time & Viewing All the Cars and Meeting with All the Nice LBC Owners & Chatting etc etc: Some "Rocket Scientist" should have at least had the Last day set for Saturday: I see No reason in the World Why the Powers to be can`t change the Venue to a "One Day Attendance Fee"!!! There`s Plenty of Time & I`m certain Plenty of People that would Welcome the Idea!!!

Should this Change Happen; I will surely find at least One day to Attend; Presuming I can Park My TR amongst the Various LBC`s that will be there: I don`t have a Trailer Queen! Mine has Its Stone Chips, Door Gaps that are Not Perfect etc etc but "Who Cares"; I don`t!! I Love My LBC and All the LBC`s that are Out there; "Diamonds in the Rough to Trailer Queens"; I Love them All!!!!!!!!

Please Help Me & Other LBC Lovers to See these Cars;

Enthusiastically; Russ
 
I have raised the one-day issue on the team.net Triumph list and there has been some comments from the organizers. They are looking for additional feedback from others who can't attend the whole show.

For the record, I do appreciate the effort that the organizers put into creating these events for us; it must sometimes be a thankless task.
 
I will bring this up at the next DVT meeting. I agree you shouldn't have to pay the whole amount for one day. I am only going three days, so it is about $40 a day. I am not a VTR member. If I was the rate would be $30 a day. So $50 for one day is quite a bonus amount.
 
StagByTriumph said:
TRDejaVu said:
It is possible, probable and very likely that a lot of Triumphs and enthusiasts are being missed because they can not attend for the full show, certainly a younger owner who has a real job - like the type of membership VTR is trying to attract to replace the old SOB's in the club.
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Like me, I am 33 years old with a 3 month old. I took three days off of work and a lot of beggin with the wife. I just couldn't miss a national event with my local Triumph club. Overall we need to move in the direction of making these cars appealing to younger people. There are only a handful in my club under the age of 40. My friends mostly love the car, only one I know would actually own one if he had the means.

BTW - the show is not in Valley Forge park. It is a National Park, and getting approval was tantamount to begging the President.
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I haven't been called young in a while, but I have the sort of job where project commitments do not easily allow for taking random days off. Much as I like the car and the community, I do not plan on using main vacation time for this, so one, possibly 2 days, is my limit (projects permitting).
 
toysrrus said:
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Glen; I would Most likely pay $50.00 for a One Day Attendance and It would`nt have to be the Final Day (Show Day): I agree with Yourself that the Last Day is Probably the Most Boring Day! People typ. are in a Hurry to leave & get back Home;
Enthusiastically; Russ
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Fortunately this car show last day is followed by some open time after 3:00pm that usually culminates in a lot of adult beverages /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/thirsty.gif and Triumph fish stories around the pool, then getting dressed to go drink more adult beverages in the Grand Ball Room at 6:30 in preparation for a fairly good meal combined with more adult beverages while listening to the MC hand out the awards, then dessert is served...
which is followed by more adult beverages ... /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/pukeface.gif

Then everyone departs Saturday for all points of the compass.
 
TRDejaVu said:
I have raised the one-day issue on the team.net Triumph list and there has been some comments from the organizers. They are looking for additional feedback from others who can't attend the whole show.

For the record, I do appreciate the effort that the organizers put into creating these events for us; it must sometimes be a thankless task.
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Team dot net is back up? I'd subscribe again to the Triumph Digest, but I already get far too many emails I have to deal with on a daily basis, and i like to go into a forum setting and read those that spark my interest.
So any of you with input on this issue, then go subscribe to the Triumph List or digest by sending an email to
majordomo@autox.team.net with a "subscribe triumphs" or subscribe triumphs-digest" (one block of all the days' emails) in the body of the email, then respond to the registration key email for confirmation. you will then receive confirmation, and start receiving emails directly into your inbox.
A warning though, the Triumph list can get real busy and deliver a few hundred emails to your inbox daily. Some days only 2-3.

Yes, it takes a lot of hard work to host a convention, many thousands of volunteer hours, and lots of dollars to make a great show happen. And when the event has a lot of drives, activities and site seeing coordinated into it, that is proof of a great committee. Once you autocross your Triumph through the timed pilon cone course, you will be hooked forever.

I am confident that anyone taking the time to attend this show will not regret one penny spent, and value each minute of time off work. In fact the 4th day always pops up so fast you are really sorry to see it come to an end.

So, See you all there!!

Continue the discussion too!
 
Hi There Kindofblue;

I too am a DVT Member; Not a Good One but a Member! I hope to (This Yr) become more Active:

Anyways; By All means, Please do "Re-Enforce" the Issue of a "One Day Fee" for the VTR: Personally I feel a $30.00 Entrance Fee (In Advance or Drive Up) would be more than sufficient to cover costs of "Parking Your Car"!! Don`t You?

33yrs Young! I somewhat remember those days!!!!!!

See Ya All Later / Tweeking the TR for an "ALL DAY", Top Down Cruise:

Regards, Russ

PS: Hey; Where is that Guy that lives in "Greenville, SC"? I really would like to stay in touch with Him! Please Email Myself @ toysrrus@localnet.com should You read this Post; Thanx
 
Well I am going to post the same challenge I started this topic with on the Triumph list.

It seems that the independent clubs circulate there in higher numbers.

I'll post the best responses back here!
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There is quite a bit if interesting discussion about VTR on the Triumph list.

However, VTR is less than 16 weeks away.

So for the cause I will once again attempt to gather a caravan of Triumph enthusiasts anywhere between Denver and Valley Forge. The short route is unfortunately interstate 70, and we would prefer traveling the least amount of interstate as possible. But to get across the heartland in july heat, we may not have much choice than to make the mad dash across Nebraska I-80 or Kansas I-70, or Oklahoma I-40.

Our plans are to depart the 14th of July, or late afternoon the 13th from the Denver area, arrive in Valley Forge on or before the 17th.

If there are any Triumph enthusiasts driving through, near or past Denver, or are on some sort of intersecting route between here and there, we would like to meet up with and travel with other Triumphs.

Suggestions for, routes, eclcetic eateries and stop overs, must see sights, etc are always welcome for discussion.

Our return trip is wide open and we plan to take a liesurely 7-8 day joy ride back acoss rural USA. If anyone wishes to join us for a spur of that return trip, let's discuss that also.
 
Glenn -

The wife and I are considering the trip, and would like to caravan. If your route includes middle Tennessee/Kentucky, we'd be interested.

Mickey
 
Hi Mickey,
I have a pushpin on the map for you. As folks respond, I'll line up the pushpins and start making plans.

Cheers!
 
Right guys, I am beginning to get really jealous. I have always wanted to go to a VTR convention. Could you all do me a really big favour and take your cameras!! I would love to see some pictures of the cars, and the people I have been corresponding with on the Forum.
 
You got it, Nick. Looks like it will be a great one. We truly enjoyed VTR in Rockford a couple years ago.
 
NickMorgan said:
Right guys, I am beginning to get really jealous. I have always wanted to go to a VTR convention....
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You're in good company, Nick! Notable Triumph people such as the late Ken Richardson himself often let it be known that they preferred to attend VTR Conventions over some of the Triumph meets in England. I don't believe that it was simply because Ken's visits were paid for or that he was treated like the "royalty" we all believed him to be. Sure, the fact that on at least one of those occasions, he was able to reunite with Kit Heathcote, his old rallye partner, helped.

But mostly Ken really appreciated the spirit of the people and their enthusiasm for the cars he helped to develop. That might just be why the Durand Cup, the Team Trophy awarded to Triumph for the successful efforts by the TRS cars in the 1961 Le Mans 24-hour race, is in permanent custody of VTR and is "awarded" every year as the Ken Richardson Challenge. The Challenge is an award given every year to an owner of a sidescreen TR who best displays "total involvement" with his or her car. Success in Concours judging is a part, but so is participation in the moving events offered at VTR convention (at least one such moving event is REQUIRED for participation in the "show" part of the convention).
 
At VTR in Breckenridge Colorado in 2001, I drove my TR3A 2524 miles from Montreal. I drove it alone - no convoy for me - and no CB and no cell phone. A lady from New Jersey drove her TR4 2525 miles there, but the long-distance prize was awarded to someone who drove from the East coast to San Francisco on the Pacific and back to Colorado.

I was awarded the Ken Richardson Trophy as per the specs laid down by Ken Richardson. His trophy (The Durand Cup) is awarded at VTR to a side-screen owner with a long history with his TR, who drives it to VTR (no trailer queens), who enters the autocross and the judged concours event. I did the autocross and took 2nd in my concours class with 380 points out of 400 with over 55, 000 miles since I restored it. The winner was a "just restored TR3A trailered 200 miles from Denver" with 385 points.

Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A

See the Durand cup here : - https://www.triumphest2006.com/images/clubcars/30donelliott'str3.jpg

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Don,
If there was a road, I would gladly drive the 3,500 miles to Valley Forge. Do you think I would get the long-distance award if I brought the car over on a boat?
I certainly wouldn't get many points in the concourse, but it would be interesting to hear what the judges said.
Nick
 
NickMorgan said:
Don,
If there was a road, I would gladly drive the 3,500 miles to Valley Forge. Do you think I would get the long-distance award if I brought the car over on a boat?
I certainly wouldn't get many points in the concourse, but it would be interesting to hear what the judges said.
Nick
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You'd have my vote, Bubba (Southern for "Mate"). /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/jester.gif
 
Don Elliott said:
At VTR in Breckenridge Colorado in 2001, I drove my TR3A 2524 miles from Montreal. I drove it alone - no convoy for me
I was awarded the Ken Richardson Trophy as per the specs laid down by Ken Richardson. His trophy (The Durand Cup) is awarded at VTR to a side-screen owner with a long history with his TR, who drives it to VTR (no trailer queens), who enters the autocross and the judged concours event. I did the autocross and took 2nd in my concours class with 380 points out of 400 with over 55, 000 miles since I restored it. The winner was a "just restored TR3A trailered 200 miles from Denver" with 385 points.
Don Elliott, Original Owner, 1958 TR3A
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Don,
I think the Ken Richardson Trophy carries the weight. That "Just Restored" will probably never win it - not even in the same "class". Anyone can put a car load of dollars into a restoration and win a concours, but all the money in the world probably would never win the Ken Richardson Cup. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/winner1.gif
Besides, "the best trophies are ..."
 
NickMorgan said:
Don,
If there was a road, I would gladly drive the 3,500 miles to Valley Forge. Do you think I would get the long-distance award if I brought the car over on a boat?
I certainly wouldn't get many points in the concourse, but it would be interesting to hear what the judges said.
Nick
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I think you would get the "Furthest or Longest Traveled" award for sure.

Come on over Nick!! Baltimore is one port of entry for Wallenius Lines, and about 2 hours drive to Valley Forge. But there are other Ports of Entry too.
There have been many cars from 'cross the pond in the States. Just get all your paperwork lined up on both sides first and it will be a joy.
It will probably take you longer to clear you car out of customs than the drive - unless you use an experienced freight forwarder.
 
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