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Saw this in the scrap pile at my local place. The guys there are all cool and will work with you. Usually the guy that owns the place keeps stuff like this but I had his son call and for $111.75 it came home with me......all 371 pounds of it...

It needs a little clean up and a motor but otherwise I think I did well. Rust isn't as bad as it looks. It was a lot less last Friday. Serial # on jointer is BX-1954; nothing on saw.

Question" how should I restore it and remove the rust?


 
I would use oil and steel wool. If the bearings are good, I wood say you did good. Assuming that is cast iron, I do not think it would warp much. Old tools are the BEST.
 
It's cast alright. Bearings seems good, everything moves as it should. It needed a little lube but all the adjustments work fine. I was thinking about using a chemical rust remover. The down side is it needs a motor with a shaft out both ends.
 
Naval jelly has always worked well in my experience.
 
A motor with shafts at both ends may be tricky to find or $$$ new. make sure it has enough grunt to run the joiner. Maybe run a jackshaft with 2 pulleys and a regular motor?
 
I think I would start with 400 grit paper and oil then switch to 600 pretty soon. Not sure I like the surface the chemicals leave. As CaptRandy said, check that the surfaces are flat before too much work invested. Judging from the photo, I'd bet all is well and will clean up nice with a little (read lot) of work.
 
I'd use scotch-brite pads and mineral spirits to knock most of the rust off, then soak a towel with Evaporust and let that go to work on any pits etc. Finish it off with a micro-crystaline wax. I have several machines similar to these. The cool part is they are built exactly like much bigger machines, just scaled down. From here they look to be late '60's - early 70's, either Delta Homecraft or a Sears brand like King-Craft.
 
I think they may be earlier than that Steve. I forgot to mention, the table also has wheels that deploy when you step on a pedal.

I'm wondering if I can drive it off of a bench grinder somehow. The grinder I have has no guts so I'd have to buy another one. I found a motor on ebay but it looks like crap and the minimum would be around $75
 
Says Delta Rockwell on the tag. The only problem I have with evaporust is things tend to rust after you use it. Is there another product that will remove rust without causing it to rust further?
 
I got some of the rust off the jointer. Looks like one side may have a grove or raised area.

What the tolerance on these things Steve?


Looks to be a Delta 37-220 6" deluxe jointer manufactured late 50's early 60's
 
kellysguy said:
What the tolerance on these things Steve?
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GAAAAAAA.... Best to think of it in practical terms and not like a machinist. If you can lap-out a ridge and get both tables in the proper relative positions, you'd be fine. A groove won't affect anything. I always set them up with a known straight edge and my eye and then adjust based on the specific cut it produces. This is a small, short bed jointer... I'd be surprised if any shimming was needed. Just clean it, set if for a light cut and see what it does. Then you can address any issues based on the cut.

I don't mean to sound careless - remember I work with these tools every day- Things like true flatness etc... Yes it matters but when the machines are this small the practical impact and danger are reduced.

By the way, you can call Delta, speak with actual Americans, get parts and manuals. They employ some old guys who seem to know EVERYTHING about anything Delta ever made. I love 'em.
 
AN5Sprite said:
I don't mean to sound careless
No worries, I didn't take it that way. I worked it out a little more. I read where someone recommended using a razor blade to scrap it down first and man does that work great. I ate up about 15 blades but it sure took the stuff down good. I think it may be usable after all. I have the rust pretty much neutralized but still have some dark spots. I sanded it lightly the full length with some 320 backed with a piece of granite tile. I may go back over it with my 50ld granite sanding block to make sure I have it as true as possible.

I'm leaving the dark patches in as filler in the low spots. I don't care if it's filled with bat guano as long as it's true and cuts good. Not to mention that if it turns out too nice it won't match all of my other junk and I won't get good results.
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"I found a 3/4, wonder if that will be enough?"

Only one way to find out.
 
.... I'd have to go look but IIRC generally jointers run 1725rpm and table saws 3450rpm motors. 3/4hp is plenty for a 6" jointer. You'll rarely take more than a 1/16" cut. 3/4hp should also be enough for a small table saw.

The golden rule: Don't tough the whirring, spinning thing. :hammer:
 
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