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I want to install a rear lift bracket on my 4cyl engine but I'm not sure of the exact way. I'm thinking this is how it is mounted. Would love to see a picture of the correct way, or some information would be great. First picture is how I think it may go.

Second picture is something I found while trying to trial fit the bracket. The PO did shave the head in the past, and I had it shaved to make sure it was flat. I do not remember the exact measurement of the height of the head, but it does not exceed the maximum amount that can be removed. The problem I found is the the exhaust manifold will hit the side of the block before it seats to the head. I realize that the gasket will take up some of the clearance problem, but it looks like I will have to remove some material from the bottom of the manifold. Second picture.

Having never rebuilt the Triumph 4cyl before it seems to have a few more quirks than the 6cyl.
 

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Third picture.

This is where the manifold will hit the block.
 

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Keith-

I can't snap a pic right now, but I think all you need to do is get it under the nut on that last head stud, I think with a washer. Kind of a dumb design if it was on my engine correcly - you actually have to loosen the head stud whenever you want to pull the exhaust manifold.

Randy
 
Fer cryin out loud, these pristine engines are making me feel a little embarrassed for mine which is coated in authentic, vintage oil and road grime! Beautiful job Frank, as well as the one you have there Keith - looks like you shop at the same manifold paint store too!

Randy
 
Thank you Frank that is just what I needed. Very very nice looking engine. Where did you find the asbestos carb insulators? All I can find are the black ones.

Randy thank you also.
 
Worth noting perhaps, that the lifting eyes were not left installed on TR2/3 motors (until the TR3B with the TR4 motor). It was only a tool, to be installed only when needed.

On the later engines that did have them permanently installed, the associated studs got longer to account for the increased thickness.
 
TR4nut said:
Fer cryin out loud, these pristine engines are making me feel a little embarrassed for mine which is coated in authentic, vintage oil and road grime! Beautiful job Frank, as well as the one you have there Keith - looks like you shop at the same manifold paint store too!
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Randy, I know what you mean! I'm wiping the drool off the table here from that shot of Frank's engine.

Wow, just beautiful!

Scott
 
TR3driver said:
...the lifting eyes were not left installed on TR2/3 motors (until the TR3B with the TR4 motor). It was only a tool, to be installed only when needed...
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Another TR titbit I was unaware of. Have long thought perhaps I should add them to the TR3A for completeness -- now I won't bother.

If you do not have the lift eye installed it has been suggested that a large washer under that nut (and it's counterpart on the front stud) may help spread the load a bit and reduce the chance that corner of the manifold will break. Given the source I immediately added said washers.

My wife says if she really wants me to do something she's going to ask Randall to tell me because I always listen to his advice.
 
I added flat washers as well, mostly so the lock washer wouldn't tear up the manifold.

As far as other's cars being much more beautiful than mine, I am somewhat envious. But honestly, I would much rather spend my spare time driving the car, than hunched over a hot (PC) oven! So my motto has always been "Drive it until it breaks, fix it, drive it some more."

Of course, you also have to keep in mind that most folks don't live where it's rag top weather 12 months out of the year. The hardtop hasn't been on the car for 20 years; and my rag top has the windows cut out because I only use it when the sun is too hot! The project TR3 doesn't even have top bows, yet.
 
TR3driver said:
Worth noting perhaps, that the lifting eyes were not left installed on TR2/3 motors (until the TR3B with the TR4 motor)...
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My TS23677L w/TS24407E Engine in it (which I assume is original) came with the lifting eye at the rear. I haven't had the car from new, but I don't think it was added before I got it. Perhaps the lifting eye was left installed at the start of TR3A production.

Does Don Elliot's car have it?? He's got an early TR3A.
 
mallard said:
Thank you Frank that is just what I needed. Very very nice looking engine. Where did you find the asbestos carb insulators? All I can find are the black ones.

Randy thank you also.
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Actually, I found those in the early nineties when I lived in England. If memory serves, I found them at a boot sale with a bunch of other non TR stuff.
 
HerronScott said:
TR4nut said:
Fer cryin out loud, these pristine engines are making me feel a little embarrassed for mine which is coated in authentic, vintage oil and road grime! Beautiful job Frank, as well as the one you have there Keith - looks like you shop at the same manifold paint store too!
Click to expand...

Randy, I know what you mean! I'm wiping the drool off the table here from that shot of Frank's engine.

Wow, just beautiful!

Scott
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Thanks Scott, Randy, etc. Now if I can only get this finished. Man, it's been so cold. Brian hasn't been able to paint, just too cold for reliable results.
 
Thanks for the information, I think I will install it and leave it there.
 
I don't have any lifting device or attachment on the engine in my 1958 TR3A. I can't remember if my early 1958 TR3A (TS 27489 LO) had one when it was new. But from 1960 to about 1970, I blew about 4 head gaskets and maybe it got lost during those years. The photo shows my engine in 1988 or '89 during my restoration. Notice the hoist hooks attached under the head nuts on the studs on the carb side of the block.

When I rebuilt the engine again in 2007 (94,000 miles from 1990) I lifted the engine out the same way.
 

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