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After struggling mightily for hours on end to change
the TR250 block's oil and filter -
I find this oil covered part left over. What is it?
Does it somehow belong inside my replaced oil filter?
If so - Can I drive the car safely without it?

Full story below first photo.

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A freaking mess I have!!

I decided to not risk possible further engine damage
by driving the car to the oil change shop.

Also to save myself $85 labor to change the oil
and filter when I supply the oil and filter!

What a freaking blunder on my part. Never again!!
I'll gladly pay the $85. A freakin' nightmare!

I've got the entire crankcase contents flowing over
Wendy's side of the garage ( she is not yet aware).

I managed (somehow) to get the TR250 block oil filter
casing off and collect the oil. Bentley leaves much
to the imagination.

I got the paper filter down thru the frame but the filter
casing will not fit. It appears the dizzy, fuel pump
and steering column must be removed to get the oil filter
housing out? Is this correct? There must be a way I'm
not seeing.

I ran a magnet thru the collected filter oil and picked up
nothing, no iron buts at all.

Any advice on how I reinstall the new filter and the filter
housing?
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They may not have heard of these down on the islands but up here in the states we use a handy little thing called an oil collection pan.
 
Dale,

That looks like the bottom of the oil filter to me.
 
dale -how many miles since the last change?
Hopefully your oil change schedule doesn't follow your plug change schedule.
 
Yikes!!

I am missing the spring and the
doo-dad on the other side of the filter
cartridge. A funky shaped washer of some kind?

This looks very grim for me!
I looked at the Moss blow-up but it was not
detailed enough.

d
 
Check the floor, or if you did use a catch basin check it.
Any of us would love to forward you a add on filter and only make a nickel on it.
 
My honest advice is to leave it off and get a MOCAL oil filter spin on conversion. Changing the filter then will be no worse than any other car.
To get the can out, the easiest way is to unbolt the clutch slave cylinder. Just unbolt it from the tranny, but don't disconnect the hydraulic hose.
There's a picture in Haynes Figure 1.17 in chapter 1/ Engine of the filter components.
The part in your bottom photo looks like part of an oil filter element that came apart.
BTW, the spring, the valve and the centralizer should remain captive on the thru bolt. Once in place on the bolt, there were 2 peened spots on the bolt to keep them on the bolt and keep the whole thing except the actual filter element from coming entirely out of the cannister shell.
The terms I used for the parts are the names given to them in the Haynes Manual.
 
DNK said:
Check the floor, or if you did use a catch basin check it.
Any of us would love to forward you a add on filter and only make a nickel on it.
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<span style="color: #660000">Hay Don,

"Stupid is as stupid does"
Yes, I used a catch pan and no the oil did
not fall straight down into it. The oil kinda
flowed in an arc and missed the pan completely.
I tried with no luck to force the pan more forward.

I DID mmanage to get a pan under the oil filter
canister. What is "a add on filter". If I can't find
the missing pieces, I'll probably need one.

What is that funky looking thing, in the diagram,
inside the big O-ring?

PS: Can I run this engine with no oil? long enough to
back it down the drive out of Wendy's garage side and
then uphill into my side of the carage.

thanks</span>

d
 
I have a brand new BPNW Mocal Spin on adapter that I can ship to you if you need it.

DO NOT RUN THE ENGINE WITH NO OIL IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Don, I checked the floor and found a spring but
it look nothing like the sketch. It looks exactly like
the springs inside the door panels, behind the window wind arms.

My knobby piece with a flange and holes also looks different.

I could not find the third missing piece anywhere.
What is it made of? Where does it go? Can I grind one
from a washer?

I've not yet filled the car with oil. Can I drive it "dry"
a few minutes to move it?

Another freakin nightmare.
Poolboy- I can in no way leave this mess in the middle
of my garage a few weeks while waiting for new parts.
I must deal with it NOW!!

d

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Do not even start the engine without oil. It's a $2000 rebuild.......
 
:iagree:
I wouldn't EVEN spin it with the starter without oil. Actually firing it is a big NO-NO. No coolant maybe, but not without oil.

However, the parts you have look pretty good to me. Put the door spring in the bottom of the canister, drop the bypass valve and cartridge onto it then bolt the whole thing to the engine. At worst, the oil won't be filtered, which isn't such a bad thing at all, entirely adequate for a short run.

Longer term, a spin-on adapter isn't such a bad idea. Likely means you can buy a suitable filter at the local discount parts house rather than having to order (and pay shipping); so I'd guess it will pay for itself in relatively short order.
 
Cuz, take Brosky up on the filter offer. You can install it. Lots of people here can provide you pictures, walk you through the installation. And you can change the oil, without pouring the oil on the ground in the future. You can acquire Napa Black Gold filters(wix make, one of the two best in the US) there in PR, easily..
 
Brosky said:
I have a brand new BPNW Mocal Spin on adapter that I can ship to you if you need it.

DO NOT RUN THE ENGINE WITH NO OIL IN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
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<span style="color: #660000">Thanks as always ,Paul.

But I have a major mess on my hands and a not too happy wife.

Can I simply install the oil filter outer casing with no filter
element inside?

Then add the oil, move the car and clean up the mess?

My car always has less than 1000 miles when I pay to have the
oil and filter changed.

If I change the oil every 1000 miles- do I even need a filter?
I almost left the filter alone today because so few miles on the oil.
But as always, "why not do it correctly" came into play.

So, Can I just forget about the paper filter cartridge?</span>
 
That little winged washer you are frantically looking for is just to hold all the bits togeather while you re-install the parts. it's not necessary.
And it's ok that the other parts are different. as long as they fit your car.
 
Tinster said:
If I change the oil every 1000 miles- do I even need a filter?
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Probably not. Assuming of course you want to continue getting greasy every 1000 miles.
 
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