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TR4/4A New member w crazy TR4a

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HerronScott said:
Welcome Bill. Would love to see more pictures as well. Only additional comments are that the engine number is too early compared to the commission number and body numbers. Also, the seats are probably TR6 seats but need some pictures of the interior.

Scott
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So what do you mean that the engine is too early?
 
It should be closer to the commission number meaning it is not original to that car but came from an earlier 4A.
 
So from the serial number, we see that the car is indeed a 1967 year model, left hand drive, IRS and not overdrive. Unless the serial plate and title from a parts car were used to rebadge an earlier/different car. That could also explain the earlier engine number.
 
But anything is possible.

My TR4 has these numbers:

Commission - CT36536L
Engine - CT 29988-E
Body - 29272CT

Something screwy there, but the Heritage Certificate attests these are the numbers it had when it left Coventry.
 
So here are a couple of pics of the interior. Don't mind the opacity of the windshield. It's just frost from this morning. 24* F. Brrrrr
 

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Looks like 4A with the center dash support surrounding the shift lever and knob configuration. I think plate behind key area was added. Looks like no padded window sills but NBD. Steering wheel obviously changed. Thats what I see right off.
 
sail said:
Looks like 4A with the center dash support surrounding the shift lever and knob configuration. I think plate behind key area was added. Looks like no padded window sills but NBD. Steering wheel obviously changed. Thats what I see right off.
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Looks like a TR4 since the headlight switch is on the plinth and not the steering column. That column switch on the left is the OD switch. I believe the owner said it had OD and that's where the OD switch is located on a TR4. This car was built from 2 and taged as a 4A is my belief.
 
JerryVV said:
Looks like a TR4 since the headlight switch is on the plinth and not the steering column. That column switch on the left is the OD switch. I believe the owner said it had OD and that's where the OD switch is located on a TR4. This car was built from 2 and taged as a 4A is my belief.
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Nope. No OD on this one. BTW, what is a plinth?
 
Welcome to the British Car Forum. I've noticed a lot of members know a lot about the cars and non-car stuff, too. A plinth is often a support for lights. In the caes of the intereior that may refer to the support between the instrument panel and the floor. It is a chunk of aluminum.

Oh, check out the Desert Centre Triumph Registry of America <dctra.org>. Located in Phoenix. There are members around the state. We had a convention of south west Triumph owners in Flagstaff last year.


T.T.
 
JerryVV said:
Looks like a TR4 since the headlight switch is on the plinth and not the steering column. That column switch on the left is the OD switch. I believe the owner said it had OD and that's where the OD switch is located on a TR4. This car was built from 2 and taged as a 4A is my belief.
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Jerry,

Why do you think that's overdrive on the column and not the normal TR4A lights and turn signal? The TR4 light switch is normally on the dash to the left of the column and not on the plinth. Looks like a TR4A setup to me.

Scott
 
HerronScott said:
Jerry,

Why do you think that's overdrive on the column and not the normal TR4A lights and turn signal? The TR4 light switch is normally on the dash to the left of the column and not on the plinth. Looks like a TR4A setup to me.

Scott
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I thought the owner said it was an Overdrive car. If it was an OD car the OD switch on a TR4 would be on the left side of the column. Turns out it's not an OD car so I was wrong. That switch did not look like a TR4A light switch to me. Looking at it now and counting the switches across the plinth it looks like a TR4A dash setup without the correct center plinth. Really a mixed up car.
 
My little Moss book would say it's a 1966, not 1967, if I'm reading it correctly. If you go slowly you could get it back in line, closer to its original heritage. On EBAY you can get the correct steering wheel and Moss has the dash parts. You could do miracles to that interior cosmetically, but it may cost you $1500 or so, depending on whether you replace the seats and carpeting. My concerns would be the frame and the rear differential bridges. Look for rust. My 4A looked immaculate underneath, but had hairline cracks in the differential mounting plates, and the story is that many old IRS models need welding work on the rear bridges, particularly the front one where the pins go through. I've attached a pic of mine just for reference. Just a guess, but I'd say it either got hit or had fender damage and someone found a pair and didn't bother with the 4A fenders. Your emergency brake is also 4A. Did you post any engine pics? Just another thought: My first TR4 went to Flagstaff. I'll always remember the young guy who bought it telling me it's a tough town to own a British Sports Car in the winter if everything isn't sealed and perfect. I'm also enclosing pic of what I did to my interior (it didn't take all that much time; just patience and care not to make anything worse).
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Just me, but no, don't drop a Buick, Chevy or Ford engine in there. Keep it or sell it "AS IS" would be my advice. If anything was ever bulletproof on the TR, it should be a TR engine, and they're readily available across the country and in England. If you put 10K in the car, all well spent, you'll get it back out as long as you don't try to sell after the year 2050 when none of us will be around to remember the breed and bid on it.
 
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