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Tinster said:
I wonder why coolant never spilled onto my garage floor prior to yesterday?

Dale,
A possible answer to that is that you didn't disturb the seal when you first removed the bolt but getting the water pump off did and then you got the leak.

Good luck! I hope you have it solved now! /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/hammer.gif
 
Well, THAT attempt failed miserably.

Water goes directly from garden hose, thru
the radiator into the pump housing and out
onto the garage floor.

Car's deader than dirt once again.

d
 
Dale - you mentioned earlier that there's two other BCF guys on the island, plus a British Car Club. What do they say about this mystery?

Tom
 
Tinster said:
I had to install without a housing gasket.
Get yourself a roll of gasket material and an X-acto knife; then you'll never have to say that again.
 
In the early 60's when I was a kid in high school I did not have much cash. I used to use cardboard like that in a cereal box and make all the gaskets I needed. Like already mentioned, a little grease on the gasket and it worked great. I wonder if things get too complicated sometimes. I am not even sure if the grease was needed except that is what my dad did and he was an excellent mechanic.
 
As of this day the Alfa 1750 has a blanking plate over the hole in the block where the Spica injection pump used to live, sealed with the thin cardboard of a Ferrari oil filter box as a gasket. Hasn't leaked in seven years. Yellow with the prancin' pony... If anyone else does a tear-down on it I hope they are amused. /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif
 
Dale, stick a Screw driver in it and top it off with some Crisco!

... Simply, Unbelievable /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

I'll call ya... hehehehehheheheheheee

Cheers!
Mike
 
I've seen some with wood bungs as a "fix"... wouldn't advise it.

Hey Mike! What'cha doin' down there in Sarasota? Do we know one-another, mebbe?
 
Dale,
Where is the water coming from now? Is it still from that bolt hole, but with a bolt fitted?
As Jeff has measured the bolt at 3 1/4 inches presumably that is what you have fitted and it has found good thread in the block?
If the water is still coming from the bolt hole, maybe you could try fitting a fibre washer under it.
If the water is now coming from the back of the housing where it joins to the block, then a new gasket is required. as someone else has pointed out you could even make one out of card.
Keep us up to date. We are all rooting for you. I know that these things can be really frustrating, but I am sure that it is probably something that can be fixed quite simply. Get out and find those BCF members and lock them in your garage. Don't let them out until they have your car road-worthy!
 
DrEntropy said:
I've seen some with wood bungs as a "fix"... wouldn't advise it.

Hey Mike! What'cha doin' down there in Sarasota? Do we know one-another, mebbe?
I'm actually still in Atlanta dreaming about Sarasota for my final resting place /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

I have worked on the Crypt Car in PR with Dale-- everything he Says it TRUE!!!!

Cheers!
Mike
 
Many years ago, when I was a boy... Oh yeah, I can remember back that far. I did my own "shade tree" work. Born and raised on a farm I learned how to fix a lot of things and a layer of grease on both sides of a gasket made it useable if you should need to take the thing apart again. Not much money in those days but some da*n good mechanics. Most farmers did their own work and still do.
That being said, if the two mating sides are true you shouldn't need a sealer on the gasket.
 
Wendy and I spent an excellent day as tour guides
with forum member Frank from Pennsylvania. A fine
gentleman as I think most will agree.

The Crypt Car hopelessly gushing water from the
interface betwen the water pump housing piece and
the engine. So Frank was unable to drive it. But
we got a few photos of Frank sitting in the beast
and peering into it's black heart.

For now, the car can sit and rot. Three weeks of
no fishing is too long a stretch. So it sunrise
in the Mako tomorrow. Gonna do a little tarpon fishing.

Thanks all for the advice and help. Greatly appreciated.

48 miles driven since:

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Dale, Don't GIve Up. I know it seems like a never ending quagmire of "it ain't gonna get runnings".


Perhaps if you reviewed the story of Robert Bruce and his never ending losing battle with the Sassenachs and his observing the spider in the cave...where the spider kept trying to string a strand and time after time the strand completeion would fail. Finally after what seemed an eternity, the spider strand stuck and held, the spider went on to finish his web.

That encouraged Robert Bruce to continue his battle for Scottish freedom. If he hadn't gotten motivation from that spider and it's relentless refusal to give up, you and I would not be here, as we are, today.

So, cuz, Don't Give Up!.
 
Dale,

There are three different length bolts holding that housing on. Ask me how I know. Sadly, I did not get to measure them before a family medical emergency took me away from the project. Today was not a good day for my cylinder head swap.

Wait till you see the pictures of that project.

Torches, air impact vibration, rope in every cylinder and finally an engine hoist to lift the head away from the block and one miserable stud that caused hours of grief.

Films at 11.....tomorrow.
 
Dale,

As I said last night in the email, that area will need a gasket. Sealer alone will never hold it together enough, which is why it pours out as fast as you put it in.
 
I'll be there sunday night with a roll of gasket material. We're gonna scare the Crypty outta Amos!
I'd bring my "Gremlin removal kit" but the airline security people probably woulden't like it. We can make due....
 
The SPC only shows two different lengths for TR250 and early TR6. 2 each 2.250" and one 3.125"; all 5/16 NF.
 
Randall,

I agree on the 2.25",but mine had three different sizes and it has never been apart. One was slightly smaller than the other, possibly 2", but I'm not sure that the 3.125" is correct. I think that the max length in that hole will be 3.0", before it hits the back of the water jacket in the head. Again, I had to leave at that point and did not get time to measure the bolts exactly. See pic below:
 
I dunno; just reporting what the factory documentation shows. Wouldn't be the first time it was wrong.

But didn't Dale say he had a TR250 engine ? While yours is a later CF series ? Could they be different ?
 
As you say above, they very well could be different , but I think that the housing and bolts should be the same.

Maybe they ran out of all of the TR250 2.25" on mine and started using leftover 2" from the TR4's.
 
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