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Well, I understand your point Tony, and I agree with you about "forcing" people to do work outside their job description, but perhaps a "volunteer program" allowing a certain number of hour away from a work-station, with appropriae credit, to get outside and away from the daily grind, might work!! :thumbsup:
 
We've been doing kinda the same thing for years....

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We could always use more "volunteers".... :devilgrin:
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]In my community, we have a phone number we can call anytime we see somebody throwing trash on the street - you just give the license plate number of the car from which whatever was thrown...they get a little notice sent to their home....2nd time a phone call is made about them, they get a summons to appear in city court & are automatically sentenced to do exactly what those workers are being made to do! Regardless of who was driving the car - the registered owner picks up trash![/QUOTE]

So I can call, say you dropped trash - twice - and you are taken to court and sentenced. Sounds really fair to me. What happened to due process?
 
alana said:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]In my community, we have a phone number we can call anytime we see somebody throwing trash on the street - you just give the license plate number of the car from which whatever was thrown...they get a little notice sent to their home....2nd time a phone call is made about them, they get a summons to appear in city court & are automatically sentenced to do exactly what those workers are being made to do! Regardless of who was driving the car - the registered owner picks up trash!
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So I can call, say you dropped trash - twice - and you are taken to court and sentenced. Sounds really fair to me. What happened to due process?
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About the same thing that happened when the "lazy government workers" were forced to pick up other people's trash regardless of whether they wanted to or not!

I'd tell the mayor to "pound sand" & dare him to do anything about it!

Oh, at least in Huntsville you get a chance to prove to a judge that your car wasn't anywhere near where somebody accused it of being - unlike the gov't worker who just gets told 'willy nilly' to go clean up after somebody else!
 
I should take offense to this whole posting and everything it implies, but that falls juuuusssst outside of my job description. Besides, that is work outside of my craft and the contract specifically states that is "VERBODEN"!!!
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I'm thinking you'd have to live day to day in a third world
country with a banana republic type government that has 87
gov't workers per 1,000 population to appreciate what this
mayor has accomplished.

We have many, many gov't workers who are cousins, brothers,
wives, etc of politicos and who sit around all day doing nothing.

The only number I can call to complain about things.....
is the Mrs cell phone.

This is the tropics guys! The gov't owns the streets,
sidewalks and right-of-way setbacks. Algae covers the
sidewalks within a month, grass and weeds grow overnight,
the trade winds blow in all kinds of litter and trash.

Painting street curbs just doesn't ring true as a high risk of
injury job. Golly- "not-in-my-job-description" is exactly
the mentality that costs everyone additional money and results
in little being accomplished.

I had a fed gov't worker buddy in the States who used to brag
his daily work was completed by 10:00 AM and then they played
poker the rest of the day. Would I put him to painting curbs
1/2 day per week? You betcha!!

I didn't mean to open a can of worms with my post. I've not
been to the States in over a decade so the "not-my-job" thing
is kinda strange to me.


d
 
Dale - you don't paint the brightest picture of living in PR. Altho' I have to admit there are some parallels just about everywhere in this world of ours.

Edit: and you can go tarpon fishing in lots of places beside PR.

Why do you live there?

Tom
 
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]I'm thinking you'd have to live day to day in a third world country with a banana republic type government that has 87 gov't workers per 1,000 population to appreciate what this mayor has accomplished.[/QUOTE]
Dale - You're probably right there! I'm looking forward to visiting PR but can already understand the difference in 'mentality' between the mainland & the islands and the different ways of handling things.....my argument wasn't so much from the 'not my job' perspective (though it might've sounded so) as it was the inferred slavery issue (you work for the gov't therefore we can tell you what to do during that 8 hours - no matter how demeaning).....what happens down there if a person says 'no'?
 
tony barnhill said:
Oh, at least in Huntsville you get a chance to prove to a judge that your car wasn't anywhere near where somebody accused it of being - unlike the gov't worker who just gets told 'willy nilly' to go clean up after somebody else!
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You have to prove to the judge that it wasn't you? YMBJ.
What next - I accuse you of murder and you have to prove you didn't do it?

I stand on the opposite side of the debate here Tony. It's well nigh impossible to fire someone in local government for anything, especially incompetance, which encourages a laissez-faire attitude at our (as taxpayers) expense.

Anything that gets them to so <span style="font-style: italic">something</span> has to be an improvement imo.
 
Alan - I've never been in local government. When you say it's nigh impossible to fire someone in local government, is that because it's "local government", or because it's union, or ...?

I've been in some large (and small) public and private corporations where it's nigh impossible to fire someone too. Instead of getting fired, they're added (promoted up) to the long list of vice-presidents and associate-directors.

Thanks.
Tom
 
I make fun of the "not in my job description" statement, but it can be very serious in a government job. They are not like "real world" jobs. They are under a LOT more rules and regulations than other jobs. Age, race, creed, disabilities, etc... have to be taken into consideration when hiring and awarding certain jobs. Tinster said all "able bodied" people, well , what about people who can't paint a curb because they are not physically able to? Do they get out of it? Is that really fair to all? What if you were hired to paint curbs in this town and told you were not needed on Fridays because untrained office workers were going to do it? That might be a lot of money for this person that he's not going to get. I agree that the concept is a good one, but I question it's ability to work.
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P.S. If anybody wants one of those "lazy government jobs" you can come do mine for a while. You'll give it back ina heartbeat. :wall:
 
Mailbox - :iagree:

Sometimes it's too easy to talk negatively about generic "groups". These are also government workers:
 
I don't take it personally. I feel the same disgust about government waste and overpaid-underworked employees as anyone else does. I see the "stuff" everyday. I know this thread is not directed at me or MOST of my co-workers.
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I was a Govt. worker for 30 years. Believe me I`v done some pretty weird "Other Duties as Assigned" such as one colonel had us pick up rocks. Yea thats right rocks, anything bigger than your fist had to go! {and there are plenty here in Utah}
after all this IS the ROCKY MOUNTAINS! When I was working in So. Texas, it was ciggie butts. And every time a Hurricane threatened we were assigned to go outside and physicaly tie anything that MIGHT blow away down with rope. {for all of the good that might have done}. I have swept a three acre parking lot with a push broom when there was a perfectly good street sweeping machine available sitting idle. The "other duties as assigned" scenario seemed pretty dumb to me but I didn`t mind getting paid my substantial wage for bieng a janitor or grounds keeper. After all it WAS YOUR Nickle! {some of those days put a smile on my face all day long.} Thinking about how pettit some people can be and how much stupidity rules the working class.
If a manager can`t keep your employees busy doing what they are paid to do, Isn`t it time to find new management?
 
alana said:
tony barnhill said:
Oh, at least in Huntsville you get a chance to prove to a judge that your car wasn't anywhere near where somebody accused it of being - unlike the gov't worker who just gets told 'willy nilly' to go clean up after somebody else!
Click to expand...

You have to prove to the judge that it wasn't you? YMBJ.
What next - I accuse you of murder and you have to prove you didn't do it?

I stand on the opposite side of the debate here Tony. It's well nigh impossible to fire someone in local government for anything, especially incompetance, which encourages a laissez-faire attitude at our (as taxpayers) expense.

Anything that gets them to so <span style="font-style: italic">something</span> has to be an improvement imo.
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Sorta like cameras at red lights....not long ago, I loaned my truck to a nephew - he ran a light & I got the notice...luckily, he told me about it & volunteered to pay the ticket...otherwise, I'D HAVE TO PROVE IT WASN'T ME!!
 
Hey Tony !!

You'll just have to see with your own eyes what a great
job this mayor has accomplished. I've driven thru parts
of Washington, DC that were so filthy I would not want my
shoes touching the sidewalks.

Believe me, if the workers were unhappy with this arrangement,
the Union reps would have a few hundred lawyers hacking away
at this project and there would be a general strike.

Wow!! I meant no harm and thought I was posting a human
interest story.

Any of you moderators can feel free to lock this thread or
delete it. I just thought it was really cool what a huge
difference one single mayor is making.

d
 
Dale - maybe "Lazy Government Workers" wasn't the best choice to give this topic?

Say - how 'bout some pics of those clean PR streets????

T.
 
I DON'T work for the government, but believe me, private industry can do the same thing and can be even more persuasive that we "have" to volunteer.
 
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