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I have no idea if AI was involved, but I do note it came from a local (Chicago) news source, not a national source. Copy/paste text searches all result in the same NBC Chicago source - at least until other search engines begin "sharing it with all their friends".

Anyway, would be interesting to do an FAA search on problems with that engine, or MD-11/DC10 fuselage.

I'd rather concentrate on what NTSB turns up.

EDIT - there are references popping up to a compressor stall on the R I G H T engine. That would be an immediate disaster, especially at takeoff.

TM
 
NutmegCT said:
I have no idea if AI was involved, but I do note it came from a local (Chicago) news source, not a national source. Copy/paste text searches all result in the same NBC Chicago source - at least until other search engines begin "sharing it with all their friends".

Anyway, would be interesting to do an FAA search on problems with that engine, or MD-11/DC10 fuselage.

I'd rather concentrate on what NTSB turns up.

TM
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Is decoding the 'black box' NTSB or FAA?
Do either have any staff left to do that?
Why do they always say it might take years to report back?
 
The two black boxes, if they survived the crash, would be analyzed by NTSB. That can take days, or years.

And the boxes don't record structural failures - just readings on the sensors.

www.cbs19news.com

Investigators begin working on black boxes of doomed UPS flight

NTSB investigators are looking into the black boxes to figure out the cause of the plane crash.
www.cbs19news.com www.cbs19news.com
 
They have the black boxes, what's been said on the news is that any report is probably up to a year away by the time they finish the boxes and analyzing the recovered wreckage. Although I expect we'll hear some high level initial assessment in the next couple months
 
mikephillips said:
I expect we'll hear some high level initial assessment in the next couple months
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Oh how I want to interject a comment, but I'm on probation as it is.
 
The thing that keeps crossing my mind is why did the engine separate from the pylon? Metal failure? or faulty attachment? or did the engine seize, causing it to break away due to counter rotating forces? That will be a critical question. Bad situation. I have family that work for UPS in aircraft maintenance. Really stresses everybody out, even if they are not connected to that incident. ...J.D.
 
Don't forget that something similar happened many years ago with AA191 in Chicago:
en.wikipedia.org

American Airlines Flight 191 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

I was with American at the time and fielded supervisor calls shortly after the incident. Not a fun time...

After 20 years in the airline business in the 1970s and 1980s, I have faith in the aircraft and crew, but not passengers and the flying experience. As we used to say, "I'm not worried if my time is up, but I am worried if the pilot's time is up..."
 
ckeithjordan said:
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After 20 years in the airline business in the 1970s and 1980s, I have faith in the aircraft and crew, but not passengers and the flying experience. As we used to say, "I'm not worried if my time is up, but I am worried if the pilot's time is up..."
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Or as a friend used to say - I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
 
Tom Hank's 2000 movie, "Cast Away", has one of the more horrific plane crash scenes (on board a FedEx cargo plane). It gave me the willies watching it.
 
NutmegCT said:
Or as a friend used to say - I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my uncle. Not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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I love that saying! I remember as a kid, my Dad took me and several of my buddies for miniature golf. As we were moving right along in our car, he suddenly stopped and screamed. Several of my 11-year old friends screamed as well (and probably peed their pants) and I was so embarrassed. After the screaming stopped, the laughter began with cries of "Mr. Jordan, do that again!" My embarrassment was not assuaged.
 
Yea, the initial report released yesterday indicates they have found fatigue cracks in the mount and that may be the root cause of the separation from the aircraft. But it will still be some time before a final report is released.
 
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