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Looks like the nicest TR6 for sale on Ebay since the 300 original mile one last year.

The car is currently in the hands of the car owner's Widow.

Issue number 1: Has anyone ever seen an original paint TR6 missing both BL front fender badges? When I painted my 76 TR6 back in 1984, they were stuck on with very good adhesive. They don't just fall off.

Issue number 2: How long has the gasoline cap been open? Could this be a potential problem? The man who owned the car has been dead for 5 years. His son lives 2500 miles away and is handling the sale.

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Received these pictures via email from seller:

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New England weather is just never kind to automobiles under any storage conditions.
 
Issue number 3: old redline tires.

Issue number 4: shows some sign that seat foam will need replacing.

Issue number 5: dash would almost certainly be helped by removing the yellowed finish and applying new.

Issue number 6: why do they not show the engine?

Issue number 7: I did not know leather beige seats were an option.

And you are right, it does look nice!
 
Could be the real deal -- I don't know TR6s well enough to spot any clues to the contrary. Odd that they do not show the engine bay.

Gas cap open probably doesn't matter much on a car that has been driven less then 10K miles since Gerald Ford was President. Any gas in the tank & carbs is likely funkified to the point of requiring specific attention.
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

Geo Hahn said:
Could be the real deal -- I don't know TR6s well enough to spot any clues to the contrary. Odd that they do not show the engine bay.

Gas cap open probably doesn't matter much on a car that has been driven less then 10K miles since Gerald Ford was President. Any gas in the tank & carbs is likely funkified to the point of requiring specific attention.

It is obvious the seller is not real familiar with Triumphs. Too many times people see the vinyl "leather cloth" as being real leather.

If it has been sitting, it definitely needs a good flushing, carbs cleaned, fuel tank cleaned, etc. but it looks like it is being driven.

What is up with the shifter? Somehow that does not look right.
 
With all the fraud on Ebay, I worry about seller's only feedback is for a purchase of a $12.99 golf club. I know you have to start somewhere but to go from a $13.00 dollar buy to a $18,500.00 reserve not met sale is a stretch.
I shows it was inspected, by who.
No pics of VIN tag or what hides under mats and trunk deck.
I'd want more info and pics.
Whats worse is his bidder's history.

Cheers,
Rob
 
Hi There Strikle;

I just wanted to say; You have a Keen Eye:

I did`nt notice the Gas Cap at first but as all mention here; It probably does`nt mean a thing as surely it will have to boiled out along with all the other little things:

$18+K; I don`t think so!!

We`ll See; Russ /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/banana.gif
 
I have emailed back and forth with him and mentioned for the money, he needs more pictures. Engine bay, more interior and underside if possible.

From the pictures that are already there, I see no problem with the seats or dash. I have blown through 3+ tanks of gas now with only a new fuel filter and my carb and gas tank seem okay and my car sat for a lot longer than 5 or so years. I was mostly concerned that for $18,500.00 the car has not needed a respray already at supposedly only <10K garaged miles.

If it is indeed what it looks like, it sure beats anything that ever came out of the "ST.Louis Auto Museum and used car sales,LLC"
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

Not sure what ya'll see when you refer to the gas cap open. Yes, it is canted at 45* but that is probably due to a Triumph recall on later models that suggested owners do this to avoid them popping open at speed.
 
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TR6BILL said:
Not sure what ya'll see when you refer to the gas cap open. Yes, it is canted at 45* but that is probably due to a Triumph recall on later models that suggested owners do this to avoid them popping open at speed.


Do you have a copy of that recall notice or a link to it anywhere? That sounds like a very important piece of information you've been keeping to yourself.
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

Stirkle,
At some point in later production the gas caps were supposed to be canted 45 degrees as some sort of Federal safety measure in case of a rollover. There is a good shot of it in the 1975 TR6 factory brochure - check it out on one of the eBay auctions. You can see it in picture 9 on the next to last page, which I'll post below.

I think everybody twisted it to parallel because it looks better...and since the cap has a latch there was no danger of it falling open. Anyone else have real info?

Jeff
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Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

Stirkle said:
TR6BILL said:
Not sure what ya'll see when you refer to the gas cap open. Yes, it is canted at 45* but that is probably due to a Triumph recall on later models that suggested owners do this to avoid them popping open at speed.


Do you have a copy of that recall notice or a link to it anywhere? That sounds like a very important piece of information you've been keeping to yourself.


I've Googled it till my fingers are sore. Unfortunately, it seems to be lost in cyberspace. I do, however, distinctly remember viewing an obscure listing from the NHTSA listings about the canting of the filler cap for safety's sake. I once saw an argument ensue at a concours meet when one fellow had his filler cap correctly canted and they wanted to dock him for it. He won out.
Most TR6 recalls pertained to faulty headlight switches, vent lines from the fuel tank to the charcoal filter falling off and steering wheel locks.
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

Hi There TR6Bill;

What "Strikle" is talking about, Is that if you look at the Very First Pic in the Listing: The Gas Cap is in Fact Open to Air & Moisture or just simply forgot to close it a few yrs ago??

It is Int. relative to the 45deg angle of the cap: I had a Sweet `72 & never knew that: I always thought that the Cap was placed "Parallel" with the Car & pointed in the Direction of the Drivers Side (RH or LH):

I guess you learn something new every day; Thanx!!

Regards, Russ /bcforum/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

I agree that it appears to be a nice car,needs many more photos. The stated comm# is incorrect,to many numbers,if the 0 at the end of the number indicates O/D I do not see it in the cabin. To mess with the dash would be a travesty,it is correct. There is nothing wrong with the shift lever. Stirkle has a good point concerning the fender emblems...where are they? It also appears to have the correct dealer installed radio. I have a list of factory/service bulletins recalls, I will see if I can find anything about the gas cap.
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

OK, went thru some of my papers. I found two factory photos,1 a 75,the other a 76. Emblems on the 75,no emblems on the 76. Anybody else out there with good correct period photos?
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

My '76 has an emblem on one side and none on the other. It was victim of an amateur re-paint.

One thing I have noticed is that these emblems seem to be in different locations.

And as far as the gas cap issue, I am also curious as to the reason. My TR4 had to have the cap in a position other than front-to-rear with the latch to the rear otherwise the boot lid would make contact when raised. I just positioned it 90 deg to that position and my TR6 is that way also. Just a thought, would the 45 deg position with the latch on the rear most side help keep the wind from raising the cap if it was not latched?
 
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In the above brochures, there is none on 69, 70, and 71 cars.
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

tomshobby said:
...And as far as the gas cap issue, I am also curious as to the reason. My TR4 had to have the cap in a position other than front-to-rear with the latch to the rear otherwise the boot lid would make contact when raised...

I believe the 'ear' on gas caps usually pointed to the driver's side (be it LHD or RHD). At least that is how it's done on TR3s & 4s.

Makes sense inasmuch as that is where one would usually stand whilst topping up.

Yes, the ear would foul the boot lid if pointed straight back. Many 4's have a little ding there from this (mine does).
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

If anyone is seriously interested, the car is located on the coast about 45min-1hour from me. Don't know if I can arrange it before the auction closes though. White is not a color I would choose, and for that $$ you should get exactly what you want.
 
Re: Is this TR6 the real deal? 2 very minor issues

BOXoROCKS said:
OK, went thru some of my papers. I found two factory photos,1 a 75,the other a 76. Emblems on the 75,no emblems on the 76. Anybody else out there with good correct period photos?
I don't; but as I recall from previous discussions, the workers at Triumph reputedly did not like the "flying a...hole" emblem and as a result were deliberately sloppy about applying it. The result is a lot of variation from car to car. Several ex-Triumph employees have agreed that the placement was spotty, and that was likely the explanation as to why.
 
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