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Thanks Guys i am going to try and find out who it belongs to on tuesday also if i can i want to try and look at the engine bay. Rust is a big problem with most old cars which haven't been looked after, but i think i can work on it. as long as most of the car is there and the chassis is straight and in repairable condition, i can work on the rest. I do have 2 fabrictor friends and 2 people i know that can weld + i intend to salvage and repair as much of the car as i can, that way if i do need to buy parts, it should only be rubber, electric or hose.
What this space :driving:
 
Silly question i know but,
How different is the TR5 to the TR4?
I only ask as i have found a workshop manual for a TR5 in our local Library and was wondering how much of it would be relevent to the TR4 i am looking at.
Thanks In Advance
 
Cabrioman said:
Silly question i know but,
How different is the TR5 to the TR4?
I only ask as i have found a workshop manual for a TR5 in our local Library and was wondering how much of it would be relevent to the TR4 i am looking at.
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Not a silly question - the answer is that they are similar in a lot of ways. Suspension, drive train from gearbox back, rear axle, interior, body parts, brakes are mostly all interchangeable. Manual should be useful in that regard.

Belated welcome by the way. Keep us posted!
 
tdskip said:
the answer is that they are similar in a lot of ways. Suspension, drive train from gearbox back, rear axle,
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I'll agree, but only on the assumption that you are actually asking about a 4A IRS. The TR4 had a solid rear axle & leaf springs, much more in common with the TR3A than the 4A. The front suspension also changed significantly between 4 and 4A.

Randall
 
TR3driver said:
tdskip said:
the answer is that they are similar in a lot of ways. Suspension, drive train from gearbox back, rear axle,
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I'll agree, but only on the assumption that you are actually asking about a 4A IRS. The TR4 had a solid rear axle & leaf springs, much more in common with the TR3A than the 4A. The front suspension also changed significantly between 4 and 4A.

Randall
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It does have TR4A IRS on the Back

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Doesn't mean it is one though
 
A few more pictures.
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Now am i right in saying those seats are wrong?

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what are the dials behind the gearstick? Are they meant to be there? handbrake looks a bit close too.

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In my opinion the chrome doesn't look to bad for its age.
 
One look under the rear fender will confirm it is IRS. The seats and console look to have been changed out. I suspect the guages are there to augment non functional guages on the dash. Here is not a great photo but correct interior.
 

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Cheers for that, Looks really nice.
I think i may have to keep the seats for now and replace them in the future.
Damm i hope i can get the car.
All my fingers and toes are crossed as we speak.
 
CinneaghTR said:
All solid axle cars were LHD and US market.

Check anyway because you never know where cars end up.
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I will look, but not till the weekend as it's dark by the time i reach the stables. :frown:
 
Cabrioman said:
what are the dials behind the gearstick? Are they meant to be there?
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One on the left looks to be a vacuum gauge, can't make out the one on the right. As Richards says, neither the gauges nor console are original.
 
You might like the seats. Several here have changed out to Miata seats. The ones in there look more Recaro style. The chrome does look decent in photos. Very expensive to redo correctly. When you are looking for IRS swinging trailing arms, as said before, that is the first place to look for rust. Not the arms themselves but where they attach to the frame towards the front of the car. Take an ice pick.
 
Looks like a nice rebuilder,but like they said,
check for rust on the body and the frame.

- Doug
 
Interesting, but probably not particularly important, the front bumperettes appear to be mounted further out (almost obscuring the turn signals and not at all underneath the headlights) than on my 4A. Also, there's no Triumph world emblem or Triumph letters on the hood. That coupled with the later blacked out grille point to a possible history of front end damage.
The console looks very similar to an Amco, but the Amco had a clock centered where those two gauges are.
 
That looks like a short bubble hood. Did the 4A come with that?. may be another clue to possible front end swap.
 
I'm looking at the two stalks on the column. Overdrive?
 
The emergency brake and gear shift consoles do appear similar to the Amco aftermarket console additions.

Bumperettes do appear mounted farther out since they are partially blocking the turn signal lights but no idea how that's even possible! There are some good pictures of the front of the TR4, TR4A and TR250 front ends here (Select page 24 and scroll up to page 23):

TR4, TR4A and TR4A front end pictures

The bubble on the hood isn't the short one. I think it's just the angle of the picture as the side-shot of the car shows it going back to the edge of the hood.

The grille doesn't appear to be the blacked-out version that was installed in the TR5/TR250 as it still has the non-functional half-circle for the crank starter and the center vertical support.

The extra switch on the column is definitely an overdrive switch so that would be yet another bonus for this car in addition to the Surrey top if the overdrive is still installed!

Scott
 
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