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John Loftus
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The Austin-Healey 100/100-6/3000 Restoration Guide (by Anderson and Moment) is a must have book. Lots of pictures and good descriptions with the emphasis on originality.
Also order the Originality Guide for Restorations and Registry Inspections (concours guidlines) Not too many pictures but detailed descriptions of construction and finishes that is the written criteria used for judging.
I recently ordered a set of pictures of a BJ7 restoration from British Car Specialists. It appears that everything has been placed correctly which is what I was after to help with reassembly. Not quite sure if all the finishes are correct but I can get that info from the books.
If you are just looking for a pretty good BJ7 restoration, this one is well documented:
https://iai.eivd.ch/users/fwi/cars/AHbj7/index.html
There are some inspirational concours restorations at:
https://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/
Cheers,
John
Also order the Originality Guide for Restorations and Registry Inspections (concours guidlines) Not too many pictures but detailed descriptions of construction and finishes that is the written criteria used for judging.
I recently ordered a set of pictures of a BJ7 restoration from British Car Specialists. It appears that everything has been placed correctly which is what I was after to help with reassembly. Not quite sure if all the finishes are correct but I can get that info from the books.
If you are just looking for a pretty good BJ7 restoration, this one is well documented:
https://iai.eivd.ch/users/fwi/cars/AHbj7/index.html
There are some inspirational concours restorations at:
https://www.acmefluid.com.au/larry/
Cheers,
John
Keoke
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Pbraun,What you must have if you plan on a concourse restoration is a copy of the current standards.Pictures are nice but are not to current specifications.For example a gold level concourse car built in 1990 probably would have a bit of trouble getting a bronze classification today!--FWIW---Keoke
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pbraun
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Yeah, thanks.....John - I have all three things you mention, but have never seen those 2 links - thanks - was just wondering - it sort of seems odd to me that no winners have put up any pics, etc... of their success anywhere.
I can't seem to even find a list of winners, either.
Know about that? Gotta go - check back tomorrow !
Cheers,
I can't seem to even find a list of winners, either.
Know about that? Gotta go - check back tomorrow !
Cheers,
Keoke
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No they are a sneaky bunch of buggers not too many pictures, but if you can get your hands on club magazines that had concours judging at their event you will find the cars and winners listed. These events are held all over the US so more than one Mag will be required.---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/patriot.gif
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pbraun
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Yeah, we are members of AHCA and AHCUSA, so get both mags - most pics, however, are pretty general and do not show details! Have the set for BJ7 from British Specialties, and they are good AND specific, just wish there more like those, for comparison purposes, etc.....not everything is exactly correct as per the Originality Guide.
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If you are just looking for a pretty good BJ7 restoration, this one is well documented:
https://iai.eivd.ch/users/fwi/cars/AHbj7/index.html
Cheers,
John
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John,
Thanks for this listing, I've been looking for some detail shots for installing the door seals and windshield lacing and found them here. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thirsty.gif
Funny how the BJ7 has become the red-headed step-child of the convertibles, taking a back seat (no pun intended) to the BJ8s. When the BJ7 was introduced, it was such a big deal to see a Healey with the modern conveniences of windup windows and convetible top.
Rick
BJ7
If you are just looking for a pretty good BJ7 restoration, this one is well documented:
https://iai.eivd.ch/users/fwi/cars/AHbj7/index.html
Cheers,
John
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John,
Thanks for this listing, I've been looking for some detail shots for installing the door seals and windshield lacing and found them here. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/thirsty.gif
Funny how the BJ7 has become the red-headed step-child of the convertibles, taking a back seat (no pun intended) to the BJ8s. When the BJ7 was introduced, it was such a big deal to see a Healey with the modern conveniences of windup windows and convetible top.
Rick
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pbraun
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OK, then, let me try wording that thought in a different way.
Does anyone on the forum have a BJ7 that has won a Healey club concours award? Bronze, Silver or Gold?
/or/ > > > >
Does any have the name, address, or email of anyone who has achieved this level of excellence? I just want to send them some pics of our restoration to date for input, comments, suggestions or whatever, to see if that would help us get there, too. Trying to rebuild the car as correctly as possible.
I am looking for:
1) conformance to standards of our car in an effort to go as well as possible, as I only want to do this concours show thing once, and do it right the first time!, and then just go out and drive the car as it was intended to be driven!
and
2) feedback on the overall experience of being an entrant in a Healey concours - all about how the process went and what is was like.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif thanks very much in advance! Will probably post similar request next week on the Healey list server, so remain calm!
p.s. - John ! - great sig !
Does anyone on the forum have a BJ7 that has won a Healey club concours award? Bronze, Silver or Gold?
/or/ > > > >
Does any have the name, address, or email of anyone who has achieved this level of excellence? I just want to send them some pics of our restoration to date for input, comments, suggestions or whatever, to see if that would help us get there, too. Trying to rebuild the car as correctly as possible.
I am looking for:
1) conformance to standards of our car in an effort to go as well as possible, as I only want to do this concours show thing once, and do it right the first time!, and then just go out and drive the car as it was intended to be driven!
and
2) feedback on the overall experience of being an entrant in a Healey concours - all about how the process went and what is was like.
Any ideas would be greatly appreciated ! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif thanks very much in advance! Will probably post similar request next week on the Healey list server, so remain calm!
p.s. - John ! - great sig !
Keoke
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Pbraun, If your reference to an originality guide is the"Authenic restoration Guide" book. The book is generally wrong and the detail [Knock] photos are correct as are the explicit concourse guidlines.Further, at time of judging the cars are finished and you will not be presented with discrete photographic assembly details---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
Is this a little clearer?
Is this a little clearer?
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pbraun
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Pbraun, If your reference to an originality guide is the book. The book is generally wrong and the detail [Knock] photos are correct as are the concourse guidlines.Further, at time of judging the cars are finished and you will not be presented with assembly details---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
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What do you mean? sorry, but I do not understand your reply. Could you be more specific? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
thanks,
Pbraun, If your reference to an originality guide is the book. The book is generally wrong and the detail [Knock] photos are correct as are the concourse guidlines.Further, at time of judging the cars are finished and you will not be presented with assembly details---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
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What do you mean? sorry, but I do not understand your reply. Could you be more specific? /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif
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Funny how the BJ7 has become the red-headed step-child of the convertibles, taking a back seat (no pun intended) to the BJ8s. When the BJ7 was introduced, it was such a big deal to see a Healey with the modern conveniences of windup windows and convetible top.
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FWIW, I like the BJ7 more than the 8. To me the interior of BJ8 got a little too refined.
Funny how the BJ7 has become the red-headed step-child of the convertibles, taking a back seat (no pun intended) to the BJ8s. When the BJ7 was introduced, it was such a big deal to see a Healey with the modern conveniences of windup windows and convetible top.
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FWIW, I like the BJ7 more than the 8. To me the interior of BJ8 got a little too refined.
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That's why they make 31 flavors. Where would we be if we all liked vanila? What if they made all the Healeys like the 100's or the BJ's for 15 years? Would we have the interest we have? I like them all. They are all beauties in their differences.
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https://iai.eivd.ch/users/fwi/cars/AHbj7/index.html
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Just checked out this link. I have to say that it was really pretty sad to read about how the restoration impacted on his life as a father. One of the BEST things about my BJ8 driver is that my 10 year old son wants to hang out with me and cruise around on a sunny day. He thinks it's cool. His friends think it's cool. And he wants to hang with his old man. Not to be critical of anyone who's dream is a concours winner, but there is no prize that's worth more than my son's interest and admiration.
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https://iai.eivd.ch/users/fwi/cars/AHbj7/index.html
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Just checked out this link. I have to say that it was really pretty sad to read about how the restoration impacted on his life as a father. One of the BEST things about my BJ8 driver is that my 10 year old son wants to hang out with me and cruise around on a sunny day. He thinks it's cool. His friends think it's cool. And he wants to hang with his old man. Not to be critical of anyone who's dream is a concours winner, but there is no prize that's worth more than my son's interest and admiration.
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OK for you Patton,no more tips---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif
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I will say this, I wouldn't mind it if my car started appreciating like the BJ8s seem to.
To be really controversial , here is my favorite Healey list. Value is being ignored in the ranking.
BN2
BN1
BJ7
BN7
BT7
BN4
BJ8
BN6
The hundreds are a good bit above the later cars, but I needed a backseat. The rest are reallly close. The BN4 only includes the Longbridge cars as I like the quirkiness.
Patton
OK for you Patton,no more tips---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif
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I will say this, I wouldn't mind it if my car started appreciating like the BJ8s seem to.
To be really controversial , here is my favorite Healey list. Value is being ignored in the ranking.
BN2
BN1
BJ7
BN7
BT7
BN4
BJ8
BN6
The hundreds are a good bit above the later cars, but I needed a backseat. The rest are reallly close. The BN4 only includes the Longbridge cars as I like the quirkiness.
Patton
John Loftus
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If your reference to an originality guide is the"Authenic restoration Guide" book. The book is generally wrong and the detail [Knock] photos are correct as are the explicit concourse guidlines.
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The book by Gary Anderson and Roger Moment is generally correct (they are both concours judges btw). There were about 30 mistakes that they and others found and if you email Gary he will send you a word document that lists the corrections (I think his email is editorgary@aol.com).
I don't want to knock the Nock's but the BJ7 photo set is disappointingly incomplete. For example, no pictures around the rear end/panhard/ebrake linkage, radiator shrouding, grill mounting, headlight details, exhaust, etc. Don't get me wrong, the photos they do provide will be handy but it would be much better if they had taken about 1000 photos, burned it on CD and offered it for 1/2 the cost.
IMHO of course!
Cheers,
John
If your reference to an originality guide is the"Authenic restoration Guide" book. The book is generally wrong and the detail [Knock] photos are correct as are the explicit concourse guidlines.
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The book by Gary Anderson and Roger Moment is generally correct (they are both concours judges btw). There were about 30 mistakes that they and others found and if you email Gary he will send you a word document that lists the corrections (I think his email is editorgary@aol.com).
I don't want to knock the Nock's but the BJ7 photo set is disappointingly incomplete. For example, no pictures around the rear end/panhard/ebrake linkage, radiator shrouding, grill mounting, headlight details, exhaust, etc. Don't get me wrong, the photos they do provide will be handy but it would be much better if they had taken about 1000 photos, burned it on CD and offered it for 1/2 the cost.
IMHO of course!
Cheers,
John
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I have to say that it was really pretty sad to read about how the restoration impacted on his life as a father.
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Yes, it is a sad story. Francois wrote about his decision to sell the car (on the Healey list) and ranted about the concours obsession nature that took away his joy of owning the car. I think he got in a little too deep and would have been better off with a good driver that he could share with his children. I agree with Jay Leno's philosophy ... paraphased as , "restore them as good as you can, then drive them until they get worn out and then do it all over again"
Cheers,
John
I have to say that it was really pretty sad to read about how the restoration impacted on his life as a father.
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Yes, it is a sad story. Francois wrote about his decision to sell the car (on the Healey list) and ranted about the concours obsession nature that took away his joy of owning the car. I think he got in a little too deep and would have been better off with a good driver that he could share with his children. I agree with Jay Leno's philosophy ... paraphased as , "restore them as good as you can, then drive them until they get worn out and then do it all over again"
Cheers,
John
John Loftus
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p.s. - John ! - great sig !
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Thanks! If you are interested in seeing how it was developed, you can check out https://www.loftusdesign.net/virtual_healey.htm
I'll keep an eye out for any BJ7 concours restorations. Let us know if you find out any good sources.
Cheers,
John
p.s. - John ! - great sig !
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Thanks! If you are interested in seeing how it was developed, you can check out https://www.loftusdesign.net/virtual_healey.htm
I'll keep an eye out for any BJ7 concours restorations. Let us know if you find out any good sources.
Cheers,
John
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Yeah, thanks! Someone on the list serve turned me on to AH Spares in the UK - nice folks, and have the glass pieces I needed. On to the next thing, then.
I am disappointed no one has taken or posted something more complete about the BJ7 model - I might just have to make up a little website myself, then!
Best regards,
I am disappointed no one has taken or posted something more complete about the BJ7 model - I might just have to make up a little website myself, then!
Best regards,