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Patton! If you needed a back seat you should have gotten a ---BJ8 and all of that wonderful wood to go along with it.But since you did list one you are reinstated for tips in the future.---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I second that emotion!.....Thanks, Dave, I was looking for that!

Glad I started this thread! Everyone has been very helpful and I have learned a bunch!, plus.... maybe other can and will also!

thanks to all who posted there!

Cheers,
 
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How many mistakes were in the Nock Photos John.---Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

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Hi Keoke,

Actually I noticed quite a few mistakes if talking about a BJ7 Concours restoration (which is the subject here). I could be wrong about some of these as my Concours Guidelines are the 2002 edition but this is what I noticed right off the bat. And remember I am not an expert but just a car owner trying to find the best info to put my car back together correctly.

1. The shocks should be unpainted Alum. body with black arms (Nocks show all black)

2. Front Springs should have parallel red and white stripes running down the coils 1/2" - 3/4" wide (Nocks don't show any stripes)

3. Steering box should be all black (Nocks shows black body with unfinished alum. top)

4. Wheels should be 48 or 60 spoke painted (Nocks show chrome)

5. Battery should be Lucas tar top (Nocks show Interstate)

6. No fuel filter was stock (although period accessory filter is o.k.) (Nocks show can style filter next to fuel pump held on with zip tie)

7. Car is painted bright white with blue interior and top. (not a standard exterior color and even OEW w/blue interior not standard)

8. Gear shift knob should be black ball with white letters (Nocks show wooden with Healey logo)

9. Radiator clamps should be worm type. (Nocks show earlier wire type)

10. Voltage regulator should be smooth bakelite (Nocks show gloss painted plastic)

11. Rubber Buffers that attach to front wheel arches should be body color (Nocks show them as black)

12. Ignition wires should be black or bumblebee (Nocks show light grey wires)

13. Dashpots should be dull aluminum (Nocks are polished)

14/15. Intake manifold, most breather hoses and clamps should be engine green (Nocks show intake painted silver, hoses black and clamps zinc .. can't see the exhaust manifold well enough to judge)

16. Gas tank bracket where attaches to bulkhead should be body color (Nocks show it zinc)

17/18. X braces in front of radiator and flange and rear of shroud should be brush painted black (except on black cars) (Nocks show them as white in final photos)

19. Band clamps for duct attaching to firewall area should be painted black (Nocks show zinc finish and perhaps wrong type)

20. Wrong shape to rear view mirror

21. Much of the carb linkage has not been refinished

22. Some of the prep and paint quality appears substandard and usually in photos this is harder to see.

23. Exhaust should be black finish (Nocks looks like stainless)

24. Idler top can be phosphate black or painted black with zinc fasteners (Nocks is painted black with painted black fasteners)

Now, in the Nock's defense, they didn't say this was a Concours BJ7. I think their 100 restoration was on a car that achieved Gold so I would guess that restoration was of a higher quality.

If I'm wrong about any of the above, please correct me.

Cheers,
John
 
Wow! I'm glad I have a good "driver". Life is too short for all this. It sounds like its best of show or zip. I'd rather just drive. Playboy centerfold are nice to look at but they are not "real". I think these cars need nice winding roads with wind in the drivers hair (for those of us who still have some). Perfection is over rated. Just my two "pence".
 
Yep John, those photos are not of the 100-4 concourse car but it is my understanding are provided only to show the correct placement of things in general relative to the BJ7 car---Keoke.
 
TH, Thats why the last concours judging I did was at the Stevenson Washington Meet. It takes a certain mindset and laid back attitude to generate a concourse car and stand there and let someone pick it apart. But there is a place in this hobby for those that choose to go this route and I for one admire them and their cars--Keoke /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/yesnod.gif
 
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Playboy centerfold are nice to look at but they are not "real".

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Yea, but don't you want to take one for a test drive!/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif

But seriously, I understand your comments. I still intend on driving my car a lot and will be happy to have all the details sorted out to my satisfaction. I'm not going for a gold concours car (btw, even a gold car does not have to be "perfect" as certain point deductions are allowed)as the color I picked is not original. That was a tough choice but I decided on a color scheme I wanted (as if I was ordering from the factory /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif )
In many areas, restoring to concours guidelines does not take any more money, just an attention to what fasteners to use and what the original finishes are. It just takes a little bit of research which I don't mind doing. And I find the process interesting.

Anyway, good drivers are nice .. that's what my car was. Now I'm kicking it up a notch but it will still be basically the same car.

Cheers,
John
 
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