GT6 Cant restore my GT6 - what do I do? - [long]

[tomgt6]

What you really need is to live around cops. I think I have 3 within a couple houses. They never say a word and never complain. Why?

Because they are always doing things they shouldn't.

It may be worth a trip up and down the street or a note dropped at each house letting people know that your working on something and if the noise it to much to call or stop over.

Lots of times this takes care of most issues. The person who is never happy well they have different issues.

Good luck. I am not far behind, I have a GT6 tub that needs work as well.

 

[Andrew Mace]

What you really need is to live around cops....

Or you could do what I've been doing for the past 22 years or so. I live next door to a lumber yard; across the road (state highway) is their sawmill, which runs much of the weekday daylight hours. Any noise I can make during weekdays is pretty much masked by the sawmill or the forklifts and front-end loaders! The rest of the time, pretty much no one else lives close enough to care.

 

[poolboy]

Some people are just a lightning rod for trouble, there's no denying that. Call it "Carma", or call it Fate, or just call it luck.
Sometimes there's no escaping it.

 

[angelfj1]

And even though technically it'll probably still prove that my grinder is over the limit, I'll make sure to let them know that if my citation stands, then I'll add the police station number to my cellphone, and anytime I drive down any street in town and see someone mowing their yard, I'll make the call and wait to make sure that someone shows up to issue a citation.

Ya know, I just got to thinking... ...if the noise issue did ever go out into full enforcement, any vehicle requiring such loud noise for repairs would eventually be deemed a "junk vehicle." And if lawns cant be mowed for the exact same reason, more ordinances/rules would be broken (12" town, 3-6" for HOAs)

Its kinda like the "10 days to appeal" issue where you cant get an appeal without a citation number, and if you receive a citation, you cant appeal.

Hi Niki. I just started to read this thread a little while ago. This is fascinating but a bit depressing in a way. A young couple like you two doing something constructive together, something that you enjoy, should be the least concern of your community. It sounds like your local law enforcement dept. doesn't have enough to do. I'll tell you, IMO, you have somehow p i s s e d someone off. If it's truly a noise issue, it has to be either your next door neighbors or someone directly across the street. Otherwise the noise thing doesn't stick because of the inverse square law. You know what I mean? If your hubby is grinding on some weld splatter, a sound meter might register 80dB at 10 feet. That's loud. But now go next door, say you are now at least 20 feet away. So now you have twice the distance, same source of noise, but now the meter would register one-fourth the sound pressure, or 20dB. I don't think they could make it stick. Back to my opinion, someone has a bee in their bonnet and that is usually a very difficult issue.

I wish you luck!

 

[angelfj1]

We have a noise ordnance similar to yours, 8am-10pm. My next door neighbor and her husband are artists and work from home. I have been very open with them about what I am doing, and have told them how I have modified my daily work schedule to minimize the time I am making a lot of racket, and try to avoid doing for several hours at a stretch.

Now while the noise ordinance goes until 10pm, in our community it was not intended that you can make that level of noise day in and day out. If I did so, the charge would not be excessive noise, but doing work in a residential area that should be done in a commercial area.

So here is what I have done to be reasonable to the neighborhood. I plan my work to start at 10am and knock off around 5:30pm when people start coming home. I attempt to plan the work so there is a day or two break between the heavy grinding. I also found that a lot of the noise goes away by using a couple of heavy shipping blankets to deaden the drum effect of the sheet metal surrounding the work area, and I minimize the time I use the 20,000 rpm air grinder (now that is an ear pitching sound). In addition to my artist neighbors, I have visited all the others around me. Talked with them about my project and when they can expect me to start and end my work. I also gave them my phone number and asked that they call me if on some particular day, for whatever reason, the noise is intrusive, and I will stop.

These concessions have avoided problems for me with neighbors.

All that said, if you have a neighbor who works the midnight shift, or one who is just plain crotchety, not much is going to work to make them happy.

Ray: We should all have neighbors as considerate as you!!! But Niki and her husband are in a difficult position. I really believe they have someone who is trying to make life miserable for them. Really too bad. Maybe we should all hop on SW Air and help them finish that car real quickly.

 

[smaceng]

Just to correct something that Frank said above, "<span style="font-style: italic">If your hubby is grinding on some weld splatter, a sound meter might register 80dB at 10 feet. That's loud. But now go next door, say you are now at least 20 feet away. So now you have twice the distance, same source of noise, but now the meter would register one-fourth the sound pressure, or 20dB.</span>

The dB sound scale is a log type scale. If one doubles the distance, the sound level would decrease by half. If the sound goes from 80 dB to 70, that is a decrease of ten fold or a factor of 1/10. Thus increasing the distance from 10 to 20 ft. would change the sound level from 80 to about 77-78.
Cheers,
Scott in CA

 

[Gliderman8]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]We should all have neighbors as considerate as you!!! But Niki and her husband are in a difficult position. I really believe they have someone who is trying to make life miserable for them. Really too bad. Maybe we should all hop on SW Air and help them finish that car real quickly. [/QUOTE]

Maybe we get all the pilots on the BCF together in Dallas and do a "pee-bomb" run on the offending neighbor

Doc- Want to be Bombardier?

 

[Guest]

My neighbors are pretty cool, I shoot assault rifles out my window and no one says anything.

 

[rlwhitetr3b]

As long as they are not shooting back, it sounds like you are good to go.

 

[mclaugh]

The dB sound scale is a log type scale. If one doubles the distance, the sound level would decrease by half. If the sound goes from 80 dB to 70, that is a decrease of ten fold or a factor of 1/10. Thus increasing the distance from 10 to 20 ft. would change the sound level from 80 to about 77-78.

One more correction: when you double the distance, you halve the power, and drop 3 dB. But we're measuring sound pressure, not power. Power is proportional to pressure squared, so doubling the distance drops the pressure by 1/4 (inverse square), which is 6 dB. Going from 10 to 20 feet changes sound pressure level from 80 to 74 dB.

-Tom

 

[Roger]

I live in Texas, and registered my Europa before it had its state inspection. I do not think it's a prerequisite.

 

[tdskip]

I ended up renting part of an airplane hanger to avoid the neighbors getting bent out of shape, not sure how applicable that is, but man is it nice to have.

 

[DNK]

Tom- You must live near College Place.
Way to technical.

 

[DrEntropy]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:]We should all have neighbors as considerate as you!!! But Niki and her husband are in a difficult position. I really believe they have someone who is trying to make life miserable for them. Really too bad. Maybe we should all hop on SW Air and help them finish that car real quickly.

Maybe we get all the pilots on the BCF together in Dallas and do a "pee-bomb" run on the offending neighbor

Doc- Want to be Bombardier?

[/QUOTE]

I'm not comfortable as a passenger... I'll drive. :wink:

..and drop a ceramic toilet as th' ordinance.

 

[UmmYeahOk]

Thanks everyone for your help and ideas. We had our national night out tuesday, where all the neighbors leave their homes, abandoned, at night, while the local police drop by, also to visit. Its kinda like a block party thats sponsored because by knowing each other, youre able to know what suspicious activity is going on, report it, or are able to contact that neighbor who's "guest" showed up while theyre gone. Personally, I think its the best time in the world to loot all the houses, especially since so many leave the garage door open =)

Our neighborhood never had one before, as without an HOA, whos going to organize it, and pay for the free food, drinks, and bounce houses? We pretty much just stuck to talking with people we sorta already new on our street. Everyone pretty much is ok with what we do, and love checking up on us for updates. But we do have a new neighbor. Shes the 4th lot down, so I cant see how that could be too loud. But there are a few other possibilities:

Theres this one family two houses over, who might, but their adult kids are the ones with the fart cannons also always working on their cars. Plus the step dad has borrowed stuff from us.

There is the people next door however. They spend half an hour loading and unloading their minivan. I make sure to stop when they are outside, but I wonder if it bothers their tv listening, as I can hear their TV sometimes while in the driveway. But theyve given us free food when we never even spoken before, and we kinda broke into their house once. With their permission of course =) They got locked out, and they had a baby still inside. I dont think theyd want to [censored] people like us off. =) Plus, I think they moved here from an oppressive environment (korea) so I dont think they want to recreate it.

Then theres the house on the very end (two houses down). Theyre always having annoying garage sales every month. But we had a car cover blow off once, and they kept it until they were able to give it back. That was nice of them. I was scared it may have blown onto the busy street, hitting and blinding a 50mph vehicle.

There is one lady who is heavily into town/community crap. She lives 3 houses down. She came over to talk to me when my husband was painting someone elses car. She asked us if he did this for a living. I was scared and told her no, making sure she knew we werent running a business like that out of our home, but turns out, she just wanted her husband 79 trans am painted =)

So its either the new neighbor or the owners of this one vacant lot. The lot is pretty far, not in site. I think the new neighbor is actually closer to it than they are to me. Its technically even on a different street. But I suspected it since its directly in front of the neighbor who previously got harassed. My guess is, whoever bought the land, realized the lots too small (the town actually has a size minimum on new housing!) and is trying to sell it

Maybe we should all hop on SW Air and help them finish that car real quickly.

No, their hub is in Love Field. Thats a nightmare. Take american airlines. DFW airport is just 10 minutes down the road =)

Maybe we get all the pilots on the BCF together in Dallas and do a "pee-bomb" run on the offending neighbor

Doc- Want to be Bombardier?

Thats too risky.

1) being so close, the pilots are too busy preparing for landing.

2) depending on which way the wind is blowing, they may not fly over my street at all.

3) considering the speed, wind, and other factors, they could miss the target entirely, and hit my GT6 or other property instead.

But thanks for suggesting it =)

I live in Texas, and registered my Europa before it had its state inspection. I do not think it's a prerequisite.

Was your europa ever registered in the state of TX before? I have also registered cars without inspection, but they all were texas cars. Also, not sure if it matters, but they kept talking about how its an emissions county (wasnt until everyone started moving here), which made no sense to me at all. But I questioned them several times thinking that since the car is 43 years old, it should be exempt, and they kept telling me that it was because it was an out of state car

Besides, I just got a letter back from them. They rejected my new title request. Turns out they didnt charge me $7 for purchasing the car in 2009. They assumed I purchased it in 2010. I called and waited on hold for a while in hopes that I wouldnt have to drive all the way back. If I could just mail them a check, or visit a closer office, but no luck. I had to drive all the way back. Thankfully there was no line this time. Turns out, they close at 4:30pm, and I had gotten there at 4:15. So no wonder these places are so busy in the morning and during lunch break! I also managed to get the same girl who messed this up the first time.

I ended up renting part of an airplane hanger to avoid the neighbors getting bent out of shape, not sure how applicable that is, but man is it nice to have.

We have actually considered that, but it was too expensive, even if we found someone else to share it with.

What you really need is to live around cops. I think I have 3 within a couple houses. They never say a word and never complain. Why?

Because they are always doing things they shouldn't.

We actually do have a cop 3 lots down across the street. Well, everyone says hes a cop, and he technically is. Hes a cop for the university. So his jurisdiction is pretty small, and far away.

And actually, our street lies in the middle of 3 different police beats which intersect. I agree with their speeding enforcement, but my husband once got pulled over in a go cart. He actually wanted to see his license! I knew it wasnt street legal and told him not to go past our street. But does anyone ever listen to their wives?!? Thankfully no ticket was issued. It just stinks because after restoring it, he could no longer play with it again. (oh, and BTW, its not equipped to go off road)

 

[angelfj1]

Scott:

OF COURSE - DOH!!!!

Sorry Niki. What I said is ONLY correct for EM radiation, you know, light, microwave, radio signals, etc. So, I had to open my big mouth. But, I stand firm on my theory concerning all the trouble.

 

[Richter12x2]

Like my wife said, we're pretty friendly with most of the neighbors surrounding us, and people come all the way down the street to see our latest shiny stuff and see the progress. Most seem pretty nice and polite and interested.

Unlike my wife however, I haven't ruled out the strong possibility that one or more of them are two-faced, and are nice to our face then talk bad about us when we're not around.

 

[rlwhitetr3b]

We actually do have a cop 3 lots down across the street. Well, everyone says hes a cop, and he technically is. Hes a cop for the university. So his jurisdiction is pretty small, and far away.

If Texas is like Illinois, the university cop has the same authority as a state cop in any county where the university has a location. In the case of the University of Illinois, they have a location in every county in the state, so our U of I cops are the same and the state cops. I do not think the use their authority, but it is there.

I hope you find a solution to your problem.

 

[UmmYeahOk]

I used to go to that university. Anytime there was an issue the campus police would claim its Dentons juris diction, and Denton would claim its the schools. In fact, one of the many many many many MANY times my car has been involved in a hit n run, I actually went to the station, and they kept trying to send me back to the campus when I KNEW it wasnt on campus, as I was parked one street over. I could see that had I parked on a sharing street, there may have been questions, but there wasnt.

Its probably why motorcycles kept getting stolen and women kept getting rape. Who you gonna call?

Now, my neighbor probably knows people, and could call them up. But you see, my town is actually in 3 different counties. So its going to be our town officers who would be harassing people. Theres city police and county, city isnt going to leave Denton, and county are too busy helping out other towns who have no police department. Seriously, how can you have a town when you have no post office, no mayor, no town council, no schools, no police or fire depart, no nothing?!? But yet its their mailing address. May as well claim your neighborhood is its own town, because thats what many of these places have done.

 

[billspit]

I say it's the lady who came down and asked your husband if he was running a business.