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BE Engine What's Painted? What Color?

Hap and all
I was just admiring the Team Sprite car. Is their engine "dressed" about like you've been describing? Looks really sharp and crisp.
 
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Hap and all
I was just admiring the Team Sprite car. Is their engine "dressed" about like you've been describing? Looks really sharp and crisp.

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Yep that looks pretty good, the only difference I see is if I have the nice yellow zinc freeze plugs or the Dorman copper expandable ones I don't paint them. I use alot of ARP hardware, which I feel is money well spent, but my last 1275 engine was an absolute stock motor where the budget was rather modest, so the original studs were reused and the the new head nuts were unplated, knowing good and well they would rust in short time, I screw bolts into each of them and carefully use high temp engine paint (cast aluminum color) on each one. I do little things like like. I fiquire when someone pays me to do a motor it should look like it as well. Team Sprite's motor looks very nice though, I give them very high marks. I like the olive green, it's a pretty color and correct as well. POR15 offer it now in quarts.
 
Interesting. I was cleaning the 48 year old grease of my distributor today and low and behold I find spots of very old paint on the body and on the vacuum advance. When I read the originality guide I thought this was bizarre but there it was the exact color that was on the bottom end of my engine, transmission, and heat shield. I dont think I am going to respray them though too much green already.
 
I am using POR-15 and it goes on easy, with a sponge brush and it looks good. Go lightly as it runs very easily. Hope my engine runs the easily when I get to that.
 
I did not want to spend a lot of money, so I used the closet color to original on my midget as long as it came in a rustoleum spray can, or brush can. I figured it would be easier to touch up any scratches or scrapes later on too.
 
What?!

Painting the entire engine when its all bolted up?!? That is awful. Just plain awful. I did not know that's how factory cars came out.
 
<I was just admiring the Team Sprite car. Is their engine "dressed" about like you've been describing? Looks really sharp and crisp. >

I really regret that there are no pictures of the motor at the time of the sale. We bolted everything together for the catalogue shots in mid-November, then pulled everything off again. There were quite a few details in the photos that we picked up in the final assembly. 'Neat and tidy' hydraulic lines, proper hose clamps, proper coil, etc. We did forget to put the tape around the temp gauge line where it goes through the P clamps, and that was pointed out to us at the auction by one gentleman. That, at least, was something that mattered and we pointed it out to the buyer. The time when you know the most is when your finished, if we had time, there were a few small things we would have tidied up, but, all in all, we're happy with how it turned out. Did they really paint the exhaust and intake manifolds green? Yuck!

Brian
https://www.teamsprite.com
 
Have never seen a painted intake and of course paint on the exhaust would be gone before it got out of the factory.

Yep don't forget the tape, hehe.
 
Think about it logically...

The Bugeye body was made at Cowley, next to the ring road on the east side of Oxford, and shipped the 9 or so miles to Abingdon.

By this stage of the life of the conglomerate that was BMC, the Austin engine family had completely suppressed almost all other engine lines (this was before Jaguar and Triumph had been absorbed). The Bugeye 948cc 'A' series engine was built at the Austin engine plant at Longbridge (a southwest suburb of Birmingham) and shipped the 75 or so miles to Abingdon, down the good old A41 I know so well (lived 1/2 mile from it, drove it every day of the week).

At the time of arrival of these two major sub-assemblies at Abingon, what was on the body, what was on the engine, and what was entirely separate?

At Cowley very few parts were fitted to the shell before final paint, so you'd expect to see virtually nothing except the sheet-metal in body colour. In the Bugeye days Abingdon did much of the fit-out of the body, in later years Cowley did 95% of it, and Abingdon gradually became unviable as a factory.

At Longbridge all engines went through a paint line. I and/or my parents owned innumerable BMC cars, mostly Austins, through that era, and all of them were the standard green on everything, generator and starter motor included. But green wasn't the only colour. MG engines were painted black - the 1275cc in ncbugeye is black, since it came from a 1974 Midget. I am told Big Healeys ('C'-series engines) were painted a different shade of green. Morris engines were red (IMMSMR) and there were others of which I have no personal experience. So you would expect the original factory-fitted rocker cover gasket to be painted in whatever colour the engine received, but of course that would only last as long as the first significant overhaul. I do remember removing painted rocker cover gaskets when servicing reasonably new cars at the repair shop I worked at when I was at university in the late 1960s.

As for whether the manifolds were painted, you have to guess where they were fitted - at engine assembly at Longbridge, or at final assembly at Abingdon.

In ncbugeye's case the heat shield is black, but that could have been done separately at Abingdon. In fact the colour of the heat shield paint is a very slightly different greenish black whereas the rocker cover is plain black, so that is a logical conclusion.

Was the inlet manifold fitted at the same time as the heat shield? In ncbugeye's case, the inlet manifold appears to have no paint on it, and you would not expect the heat to have burned it off there, any more than on the spark-plug side of the cylinder head which is still black.

Exhaust? Was it fitted at Longbridge? My guess would be no. I think they would have put sticky-tape on the manifold face of the head and passed it down the paint line like that. Even if it was fitted and painted, of course you would expect it to have burned off.

How about the carburettors? There is no trace of black paint anywhere on the carburettors or linkage on ncbugeye. They may very well have been shipped in bulk from SU and set up by the Abingdon MG folks, after all they were the EXPERTS at all that stuff in those days.

More food for thought…
 
I have found traces of green paint on the intake manifold, only at the base next to the head. Of course the exhaust is that reddish burnt color so typical of exhaust manifolds. I dont think I will paint the intake, I personally like the natural aluminum look and it breaks up all that green.
 
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