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Well so far I have:
1958 Bugeye trying to get title through Mechanics lien
1959 Bugeye sold as a 1958 title has engine number for vin# and motor been replaced so none of the numbers match
Now I have a MG Midget title has a 1967 with a 65,66 vin number, and body hardware from when ever. life is good !
 
Maybe someone built this like Johnny Cash did his Caddy, one piece at a time.
 
bill_young said:
There should be a VIN plate riveted to the cowl just between the dash and the windshield, that's the number you need to determine what year it is.
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I went home last night to check out the vin# on top of the dash as you suggested, but my car doesn't have a vin # there.
 
mightymidget said:
bill_young said:
There should be a VIN plate riveted to the cowl just between the dash and the windshield, that's the number you need to determine what year it is.
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I went home last night to check out the vin# on top of the dash as you suggested, but my car doesn't have a vin # there.
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I hate to say this: :eeek: :eeek: :eeek:

It aint there for a reason I assure you. Don't panic, as there may still be some options to make it 100% legal.

Guys, is there anywhere else on the car that the VIN will be located? Prefereable a place where it's not removable.


It' still viable even if it's a worse case senario (unless stolen) as it can be parted out or a race car.

It might be ilegal to sell a car in your state w/o a VIN so you might have some recourse if you choose. Bare in mind the seller may not know the VIN is missing.

Relax, we'll figure something out.
 
It sorta depends -- the earlier cars only had the VIN on a plate on the front frame extensions, underneath where the carbs are. It's quite possible that this car is a mix of cars -- maybe an earlier body shell with some later appointments (bumper, dash, etc). Not uncommon with Spridgets.

As long as there's a good VIN plate at this location -- and it matches your title -- you should have no issues. As to the year on the title, well, those often don't match up. These cars were often title in the year sold, not the year made, so you're car could easily been a '66 sold first in '67. Not worth sweating it.
 
drooartz said:
Not worth sweating it.
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I'd agree, you're golden as far as the legalities of registering go, if there's only one VIN on the car, and it hasn't been tampered with and matches the inspectors "rule book" as to where it should be your all set, the car is a '65 as far as everyone is concerned, even if the only part that is from a '65 is the vin plate itself. As I understand it. I can't see why it matters really, clean title is the goal right? Does it matter to the government what "year" it is?
I guess we have it easy in Michigan, no one ever inspects or questions anything that I've ever heard. At least not the actual car, whatever is in the paper trail is all that matters here.
No emissions tests, nothing. I like it that way.
 
drooartz said:
As long as there's a good VIN plate at this location -- and it matches your title -- you should have no issues..
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That's what I'm worried about.
 
according to frame tag it is a MKII.
It has wire wheels, need to see if it has full leaf springs

If car was sold in 1967 and dealer listed as a 1967 since that is when it was sold, that would explain the difference in years.

What year did they start putting vin # on top of the dash?
 
According to Horler you have a 1965 produced between August and December. You hould find a number stamped on the frame on the passenger side under the front lever shock. That should match your vin plate.

You do not have a 65 dash maybe early 70 so it definetly will not match the frame vin

Mark
 
HAN8L1965 said:
According to Horler you have a 1965 produced between August and December. You hould find a number stamped on the frame on the passenger side under the front lever shock. That should match your vin plate.

You do not have a 65 dash maybe early 70 so it definetly will not match the frame vin

Mark
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Is the VIN on the dash or the cowl?
 
The VIN Plate on a 65 is a metal plate rivited to the frame left of the engine.
GAN3-36791 was the first car built in 65 and GAN3-45860 was the first car built in 66.

Mark
 
This is what I am thinking also,The page posted from Victoria British (p9) shows from my vin# the same information . 1965

I checked dash cowl no vin tag or evidence there ever was one, the metal plate on drivers side of frame is all I have, I will check under passenger side of front leve shock tonite.

The car has been repainted so I would assume some one just liked the looks of a split bumper and padded dash and intalled into car along the way

Agian when did they begin putting the Vin# on dash top?
 
mightymidget said:
This is what I am thinking also,The page posted from Victoria British (p9) shows from my vin# the same information . 1965

I checked dash cowl no vin tag or evidence there ever was one, the metal plate on drivers side of frame is all I have, I will check under passenger side of front leve shock tonite.

The car has been repainted so I would assume some one just liked the looks of a split bumper and padded dash and intalled into car along the way

Agian when did they begin putting the Vin# on dash top?
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does it match the title?
 
If the VIN plate and title match, that's generally as far as it goes in these parts.
I know in other Marques, you can order out body plates, and get them stamped for all the information you have available for that VIN.
Do so, attach it with PROPER fasteners (the Gummint is often more interested in HOW it's attached than what it actually says) and end any body VIN confusion.
 
TOC said:
If the VIN plate and title match, that's generally as far as it goes in these parts.
I know in other Marques, you can order out body plates, and get them stamped for all the information you have available for that VIN.
Do so, attach it with PROPER fasteners (the Gummint is often more interested in HOW it's attached than what it actually says) and end any body VIN confusion.
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I think you have to supply and old vin plate as proof before they'll stamp you out another set. My buddy looked into it once for a GTO.
 
mightymidget said:
Agian when did they begin putting the Vin# on dash top?
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The Horler book has that change as January, 1969. Prior to that point the VIN plate was on the chassis rail below the carbs.
 
drooartz said:
mightymidget said:
Agian when did they begin putting the Vin# on dash top?
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The Horler book has that change as January, 1969. Prior to that point the VIN plate was on the chassis rail below the carbs.
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Thanks for that information, I checked the engine numbers 10CC-DA-H35818 which puts it in correct time frame for car vin# 1965/1966, strange the car has full length leaf springs, attached top with appear factory
 
HAN8L1965 said:
According to Horler you have a 1965 produced between August and December. You hould find a number stamped on the frame on the passenger side under the front lever shock. That should match your vin plate.

You do not have a 65 dash maybe early 70 so it definetly will not match the frame vin

Mark
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How do you see that number? I looked last night but could not find any number looking down from the hood opening. Can you clarify where it is and where to you position yourself to see it?
 
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