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TR4/4A 1967 TR4A Question

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HerronScott said:
Randy,

Obviously, I'm biased toward the IRS TR4A but that's because it's what I'm used to given that's what my first car had. Definitely more failure points to watch out for (Half-shaft u-joints, differential mounts).

Scott
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Yep, I realize my comments sound way too negative on the IRS 4A - that's not the case, I'd love to have one. But I have seen some comments in the past suggesting the live axle version was less desirable - and that's where I differ, as a buyer I would be very interested in the live axle version as a further developed TR4.
 
Hi Scott,

Agreed, the wiring does look a little suspect. Looks like they have installed an electric fan and relay and were not really concerned how they ran the wiring....

The interior is supposed to be all original and in need of some "refreshing". I am assuming that there are some cracks in the veneer of the dash after all these years and the owner decided it was time for a new dash but never got around to installing it.

I would like for the car to have overdrive as I know that value of it having it in both my TR6 and TR3A. I suppose I could always add it later if I did pick up the car.

Going to try and see it in person next week time permitting.

Cheers,
Tush
 
Tush - sorry for being late on this thread. She looks like a solid car. Rot spots are all pretty much the same as on the TR6. Lower sills, fender bottoms etc all solid?

The solid axle cars don't really have a inherent weakness like the TR6 differential mount issues obviously, and the engines are actually tougher then the TR6 engines. Make sure to check the front suspension mounts, fulcrum / lower A-arm points since these can tear but not a bad jib to weld in reinforcements when you are rebuilding the suspension anyway.

That wiring is easy to fix - almost a so-what in the overall picture if the engine and body are good.

Keep us posted!

(sorry again for being late on this thread)
 
TR4nut said:
HerronScott said:
Yep, I realize my comments sound way too negative on the IRS 4A - that's not the case, I'd love to have one. But I have seen some comments in the past suggesting the live axle version was less desirable - and that's where I differ, as a buyer I would be very interested in the live axle version as a further developed TR4.
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Randy,

I didn't think you were way too negative, just a differing opinion. :smile: I had not seen comments related to the live axle versions being less desireable and I certainly would not consider them in that light!

Scott
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M_Pied_Lourd said:
I would like for the car to have overdrive as I know that value of it having it in both my TR6 and TR3A. I suppose I could always add it later if I did pick up the car.

Going to try and see it in person next week time permitting.
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I agree on the overdrive but wouldn't let it hold you up in making the purchase if the price is right and the car is solid on the body work since you can always add it later. Hey I did notice that the letters are missing on the hood so you should check that area out.

Let us know what it looks like in person.

Scott
 
Scott and I will have to have a "drive-off" one of these days to see which is better!! We could write it up for the VTR magazine.

I was waiting for someone to mention that live axle production was one-fourth of total production, making them number about 4,000 out of 16,000. How many TR250s were made? :smirk: Seriously though, I like that my car has that American-market dimension to it (oh yeah, like the 250...). We would call that social construction at work.
 
Piggott's Triumph TR has about 7,000 of 28,000 4A's with solid axle. Looks like a nice car regardless.
 

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The first '66 4A I purchased in '69, had SU's (CT69795L). The '66 I drive today has ZS's. And, both were/are solid axle cars.
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sail said:
Piggott's Triumph TR has about 7,000 of 28,000 4A's with solid axle. Looks like a nice car regardless.
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You know, I forgot to put "estimated" in my post like Piggot did in his book. His estimate of 1/3rd of 21,000 North American 4As does come out to 7,000.

Mike Cook, my source, lists 16,133 North American 4As. 1/3rd of that is 5,300.

I guess we won't really know the exact number, and you're right, live axle or IRS, 4As are nice cars regardless.
 
mtlman8 said:
my 67 tr4a irs has zs cd's
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What's your commission number? Note that my second TR4A is registered as a 1967 as that's when it was originally sold but it was built in August of 1966.

Scott
 
3798j said:
The first '66 4A I purchased in '69, had SU's (CT69795L). The '66 I drive today has ZS's. And, both were/are solid axle cars.
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Jay,

What is the commission number of your current car and is it the original engine (if you know)?

Scott
 
HerronScott said:
What is the commission number of your current car and is it the original engine (if you know)?

Scott
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Scott, It's CT57927L. When I got the vehicle it had DCOE40's on it. The ZS's (plus manifold) were in a box with the DPO saying they were original to the vehicle. I subsequently replaced the engine block, but believe it had been the original.
 
Jay,

Your current TR4A is the 7,927th and I would imagine it was really built in 1965 since my oldest one (19,123th) was built in May 1966. I found CT57505 in the TR Registry lists a BMIHT build date of July 5, 1965 so yours was probably built in July 1965 as well.

Scott
 
Scott, Thanks for the information. I think your assessment is correct - Had an inkling that it was a '65 build, but never attempted to confirm.
 
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