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I was bored today with nothing important to do. So, I thought I would start up the windows partition for the first ime in a few months to let it update and to get the latest version of Sketchup. Well, searching Microsoft for updates took over half an hour. Then while updating Sketchup, Firefox decided to update itself. That killed the Sketchup update but it now thinks it has been updated. Also, Firefox seemed to have killed itself; says it can't reload my profile but then won't run without it. Then, of course, AVG antivirus needed an update.

Four hours later, after numerous restarts (Windows is getting your computer ready - Don't shut your computer down) I finally gave up. As far as I know, Windows and AVG updated but I am not willing to risk searching again today. I still have the old version of Sketchup (but it seems to work). Firefox does not work. Google Chrome wants to do an update but I refused that. So essentially I accomplished nothing that I wanted to do.

Finally, Linux Mint is up again and all is right with my world. How do people put up with that when there are decent OSes like Linux and MacOS? OK, rant's over now.
 
I think the answer is in your own words:

"I thought I would start up the windows partition for the first time in a few months to let it update ..."

Trying to do several months of updates, on o/s as well as browser, all at once? Yikes!

I monkeyed with Linux a few years ago. Very nice as long as it worked, but imperfect drivers, cryptic commands, and unsupported hardware, ended that experiment. OK I guess if you're a tech person - but not for the casual user I'm afraid.

Tom M.

 
By refusing the latest and greatest Windoze...and all updates

Turn off FireFox updates. Keep a slightly older version. Use a Windoze product you can deselect updates. And never use AVG.

And the morons in Redmond seem to somehow figure out how to nail us....both XP-64 machines went down on boot 3 days apart....and near as we can tell it was something MicroSlime did...only similarity..and exact same blue screen message...and same fix.
 
Yea
im an Apple person for home I have grown tired of the windows adventures and only use windows for work
and really only because of Rockwell and AB software
it’s become such a hassle I now work out of several different Virtual machines just because of the endless update hassles crashes and what not
I do almost all my work in AB and Rockwell with out a network connection.
iif i do need the work on on line with a remote machine I Email the file to the customer
then use Splashtop or webex.
im over spending hours as you have messing with this .
and sticking your head in the sand running old crap isn’t the answer either.
but honestly I’m a much happier person on a apple machine
 
NutmegCT said:
I think the answer is in your own words:

"I thought I would start up the windows partition for the first time in a few months to let it update ..."

Trying to do several months of updates, on o/s as well as browser, all at once? Yikes!

I monkeyed with Linux a few years ago. Very nice as long as it worked, but imperfect drivers, cryptic commands, and unsupported hardware, ended that experiment. OK I guess if you're a tech person - but not for the casual user I'm afraid.

Tom M.
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My Mac doesn't have that issue. I kept an old version of Mac OS (10.6 Snow Leopard) running for a long time and when I finally updated I went straight to El Capitan (10.10 Yosemite), skipping over Lion, Mountain Lion and Mavericks. Update went smooth as glass. I kept running Yosemite for a long time, then finally updated to High Sierra, skipping El Capitan and Sierra. Again - smooth and did not take hours.

I was a PC / Windows guy for many years and always resisted the urge to even try Mac. Then I bought my wife an iMac and, after playing around with her iMac for a while I realized that it was a clean, smooth OS that I really liked. Eventually (2011-ish) I made the jump to iMac and have never regretted it for one second. I still have Windows 7 installed on a partition of my iMac and every now and then I boot into Windows to do certain tasks, but I will never go back to Windows. Different strokes.
 
Imagine the time wasted fixing windows
now I don’t even try I just let the company IT worry about it and get a coffe and maybe even lunch
and smile at my MAC


no never going back
 
I'd probably be happy with a Mac, but I can't afford one, not to mention porting over thousands of files. That's the way it's been since I first investigated Macs back in the 1990s, and even today. Sometimes I envy you guys that have the Macs with bells and whistles.

I'd rather put up with 15 minutes a week of updates on my free Windows 10, running on my $100 used Dell laptop I got two years ago, than spend the dollars for a Mac and related peripherals. Updates run at night, so there's no down time. And I've never had to "fix" anything on the Windows machine. Come to think of it - I've actually had maybe one hardware or o/s problem in over ten years, and I'm online at least two hours a day.

Tom a/k/a Frugal Zealot.
 
NutmegCT said:
I'd probably be happy with a Mac, but I can't afford one, not to mention porting over thousands of files. That's the way it's been since I first investigated Macs back in the 1990s, and even today. Sometimes I envy you guys that have the Macs with bells and whistles.

I'd rather put up with 15 minutes a week of updates on my free Windows 10, running on my $100 used Dell laptop I got two years ago, than spend the dollars for a Mac and related peripherals. Updates run at night, so there's no down time. And I've never had to "fix" anything on the Windows machine. Come to think of it - I've actually had maybe one hardware or o/s problem in over ten years, and I'm online at least two hours a day.

Tom a/k/a Frugal Zealot.
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If it meets your needs, that is all that matters.
 
Basil said:
If it meets your needs, that is all that matters.
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Which is exactly why I use what I use.

Since everybody bows down and kisses...ooops...appreciates Redmond's market share, all the peripherals are designed to only use latest MS garbage. Java is not supporting older systems, FireFox is 52 and no newer, run into issue with da google, especially maps, it just never ends.

HTML5 in the text portion will be the next one.

If you don't voluntarily submit, you will be assimilated.

Before I buy another MS product, I will pull the plug.
 
Bayless said:
So, I thought I would start up the windows partition for the first ime in a few months to ... get the latest version of Sketchup.
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If Linux is so hot, why do you have to start Windoze? Ok, yes, a rhetorical question : Sketchup doesn't run on anything else. So why do YOU put up with Windoze when there are "decent" OS that won't do what you want to do?
 
There are two Winblows boxes here on our personal LAN. One XP Pro and one Win10. Herself is a graphic artist/illustrator and the majority of clients and outputters are using programs only running on the MS O/S, so that makes it necessary. Another three boxes are running Linux kernels in some form. One is a firewall on a hardened (stripped) Linux kernel. CEntOS is my personal choice for a stable, reliable O/S for personal use, GNOME as the front-end. Another is our server, data storage. Been learning and using Linux since Red Hat released their first version. Uptimes, barring hardware failures and power blackouts, have been upwards of a year at a time. No reboots, no updates needed. This box I'm posting from now has CEntOS 5.1 as the O/S, been reliably running (knock skull) for many years. Now putting an i7 engine replacement together, will port all data to it from this box when done. Guessing I'm the outlier in this bunch.

TOC has my respect, he's got a winning formula for flanking the Redmond scheme of ever more intrusive "upgrades".

The real weak link in all this is the ubiquity of broadband and the consolidation of providers. We're all "out there" continuously, butts hung out for short-arm inspection. That's a "join or die" fact of modern living. <shrug>
 
I'm betting that if we had a Doc in every neighborhood, there would be more neighborhoods using Linux.

Just sayin' ...
 
Or more small businesses. :wink:
 
But the small businesses would need to be Linux support businesses!

:wink: :wink:
 
My eville scheme discovered! Three of my clients are converts. They've sworn to never go back (to MS). hehee.
 
Oh gosh darn - you never should have told anyone.

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Anyway, if there were more Linux tech support folks, there would probably be more Linux users. But most folks today have to provide their own tech support, and use the hardware they can afford.

Tech support - That's what BCF is for, right? :angel:
 
I've been using Windows since v3.0 both at home and work (I'm an 'IT professional' working mainly with Oracle and some other databases). I've never encountered a problem with Windows that couldn't be solved via a few Google searches. That is the advantage of Windows. It's not perfect by a long way but there is such a big user base that there is always someone who has had the same issues and found a solution.
 
Steve - I think there are millions of folks (me too) who feel the same as you. It works, has lots of support for any problems, and it's pretty much universal.

Lots of help forums for Jaguar, Lotus, Triumph, MG, etc. Not so much for the Gilbern Genie.
 
catfood said:
I've been using Windows since v3.0 both at home and work (I'm an 'IT professional' working mainly with Oracle and some other databases). I've never encountered a problem with Windows that couldn't be solved via a few Google searches. That is the advantage of Windows. It's not perfect by a long way but there is such a big user base that there is always someone who has had the same issues and found a solution.
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No argie with that, Steve. I, too, am an IT consultant, small client base and have been dealing/dueling with MS since DOS was introduced. Because it has been accepted as THE O/S of choice here as well, I've no choice. I don't have to like it, but as has been said: "It is what it is". Personally, I just prefer Linux.

Have you any familiarity with Firebird?
 
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