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Tom, The newer versions of a Linux based operating systems are very up to date and much easier to use than years ago, most of the language barrier is gone and only needed in some programs, very few. This older laptop has Linux Mint 18 in it and is very easy to use, it's faster than Windows, never bugs for updates and no Microsoft interference, uses standard Internet browsers. Linux has been made much more user friendly to the Windows users. As said, I'm on a duel boot Linux machine now. My desktop has Fedora in it, thanks to Walter, little more colorful. I think it depends on what one wants to use it for and comfortable with would steer them to different Op systems. Just my 2 cents. :cool-new: PJ
 
My home computer with Windows installed runs 7 and has updates turned off. It works just fine.
 
Yep - let updates run during the wee hours, or turn them off - and you're never bothered by updates!

When I tried Fedora, there were updates available every few days, for every segment of the OS and installed apps. You could ignore them if you wanted.

We use what does the job!

TM
 
I have one former Windows machine that is supposed to running just DOS to running the timing system on my slot car track. Now even that is acting up and won't load all the way to allow me to get to the only program on the unit. It acted up yesterday when having the grandkids play with the slot cars. I think that is my next project for today.

I will stick with my iMac with High Sierra 10.13.3 running smoothly.
 
"If Linux is so hot, why do you have to start Windoze? Ok, yes, a rhetorical question : Sketchup doesn't run on anything else. So why do YOU put up with Windoze when there are "decent" OS that won't do what you want to do? "

That's right, Linux won't do everything (yet). But so far Sketchup is the only program that I miss from Windows and I rarely use it. I was in the software industry since 1966 until I retired at the end of 2002 and had to deal with Windows for the last few years so I am not a complete novice. A couple of years ago I developed a set of programs for a local food pantry (feed the hungry) for Windows computers. The pantry was then donated some iMacs to replace their aging windows boxes and I had to convert my programs.

Fortunately since retiring I have become picky and only develop programs in Java and I had some previous Unix experience so the conversion was almost trivial. I found the Macs so enjoyable that I bought one to replace my wife's aging Dell desktop and immediately made the full time conversion of my computer to Linux. BTW, you can get some really good deals on slightly used iMacs from eBay.
 
I had windoz at work with a huge IT dept so they fixed it for me. It took way too much messing around. After I left in 2012 I bought a MacBook Air, cheapest Mac and lowest specs. It asks me if I want to update which I always do. It runs without fail, still. Holds spreadsheets and such and never freezes. It’s simple. It does always ask if I want to open Windows, but all free Mac programs do what Windows can do for me. Expensive yes, but you add up a cheap Dell plus Windows and whatever else and you’ve got a self supporting Mac.
 
8am started my windows work machine
it started ups dates
8 32 coworker calls to see why I’m not online
windows still performing updates do not turn off computer....
think I’ll go to breakfast..
productivity has to be costing companies Astronomical amounts of money
 
and the "mandated updates" of Windoze Ten just keeps giving and giving and giving.
I remember when ten first hit the world...a video of a TV news broadcast doing the weather.....and the screen behind the weatherguesser went to the update screen...do not turn off your computer..and they were shut down for the duration.

There were (and probably still are) folks on dial-up that those updates can take you off line for a whole day. At a time.
 
TOC said:
There were (and probably still are) folks on dial-up that those updates can take you off line for a whole day. At a time.
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That's why a lot of Europe and South America have gone to Linux!
 
Now coming to you with an i7 engined CEntOS 7 box. Burned it in overnight, had to load the GNOME GUI post-install, but that's a no-brainer with yum. Sucker is quick, too.
 
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Now coming to you with an i7 engined CEntOS 7 box. Burned it in overnight, had to load the GNOME GUI post-install, but that's a no-brainer with yum. Sucker is quick, too.
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My current iMac is a i5. It's going on 8 years old so probably in the next year or two I'm going to upgrade. My next iMac will be an i7 processor.
 
The wife, who doesn't like change, won't use a Linux machine, turned her laptop on a couple days ago to check her mail and Microsoft jumped in, took over and started downloading updates which took 2 hrs! Then when that was done, it had to re-configure the computer, (Please Don't Turn Your Computer Off), that took another hour! When the machine shut down and re-booted, Ms said she needed 4 more updates! I know I can turn automatic updates off, but then when needing the updates, it takes 3 to 4 hrs of down time. She uses her iPad for just about all Internet work anymore, I think her Dell laptop is heading for the scrap heap! I never did like her 17" Dell, it was always slower than our other computers. :rolleyes2: PJ
 
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