Need Paint Code for Ivory Color

[Ray Smith]

I need the paint code for the Healey Ivory color.Where can I get a paint sample of this color? Where is a good source for purchasing paint?

Ray

 

[MGACoupe]

Ray,

I just had the paint mixed for my Healey at https://www.autocolorlibrary.com/cgi-bin/search/search.pl

"Jimmy Chips" mixed the colors for me in Old English White also known as Ivory and Colorado Red. They offer PPG products and still carry PPG Duracryl acrylic lacquer which is what I am using. Their color matching uses original codes and they will also mix to a piece of your car if you send it to them. They use no offsets, meaning they don't find a modern color that looks like an old color. The way they explained it to me was years ago their was not nearly the number of toners that are in use today. So if a old color is matched to a new color formula the results will not be the same under different lighting conditions. The Colorado red they did for me is spot on the original. Drawback is price - acrylic lacquer in red is $405.00 a gallon - ouch! They have formulas going back to the 1920's and their web site contains more information about paint than most people care about.

Regards,
Ken

 

[John Loftus]

I called PPG for my OEW (aka Ivory) codes. I gave them the ICI code: 2379 (from Donald Pikovnik's book) and this is the formula for PPG Concept Acrylic Urethane (DCC)

DMC 936 - 224.4
DMC 918 - 124.7
DMC 904 - 83.1
DMC 902 - 66.5
DMC 929 - 49.9

Used DT 870 Reducer and DU5 Hardener. Looks like OEW to me (although in the photos it looks whiter .. in real life has much more of a warm, creamy color) https://www.loftusdesign.net/restorationweb/

Cheers,
John

 

[dklawson]

The roof on my Mini is OEW and coincidentally it's PPG DCC paint. (John... I don't recognize all those numbers... are those the drops of pigment per gallon? ) My OEW is indeed an off-white with a cream appearance. I've never parked the Mini next to a Healey for direct comparison but from memory... I'd say it's close. Most PPG shops will mix up as little as a pint which should cost you about $40. It's a good investment if you're unsure of the color and don't want to buy a gallon.

If you're interested, I may still have the four or five digit PPG code for the paint at home. I can look it up and post it here if you need it.

 

[Keoke]

Hi Dough, I do not recognise those numbers either. If I look in my Healey "Body Service Parts List" it simply calls out :Ivory White{Code WT3}-??---Keoke

 

[John Loftus]

The paint supply house had no problems with those numbers. It is the formula (offset formula) ... probably the same thing they go through when you give them a five digit code number .. tells them what quantity of each toner is required to make a gallon. They give no guarantees with offset formulas and you should have a small quantity made up first to check the color. It did look good to me and my painter though.

Cheers,
John

 

[Dave Russell]

The numbers John quoted are the number of parts of various toners used in a tinting base to make the color. The base, while not given is likely a white.
DMC 936 is "blue shade Pthalo yellow"
DMC 918 is "red shade organic yellow"
DMC 904 is "red shade Pthalo blue"
DMC 902 is "carbon black"
DMC 929 is "light red oxide"

Who would ever think this adds up to OEW?
D

 

[Ray Smith]

Thanks for the input. Will a pint of paint the two indented sides of the Healey?

Ray

 

[Keoke]

No Ray, A pint will just leave you tipsy /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif,you should get two! that way a little will be left over for touch ups if require later.---Keoke

 

[Ray Smith]

Doug,

Is the ICI code 2379 that John quoted the same as the PPG code?

Ray

 

[John Loftus]

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Doug,

Is the ICI code 2379 that John quoted the same as the PPG code?

Ray

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No ... that would be far too easy! /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/lol.gif My understanding is PPG aquired ICI in the 90's but the numbers are not the same.

Cheers,
John

 

[dklawson]

Ray,

I checked the left-over paint I have and can no longer read what was written on the label. I checked my invoices and all the shop wrote was "ppg-mix". I'll inquire with a couple of friends and see what they have in their records.

 

[dklawson]

Ray,
After asking on another forum I was directed to this thread:
https://www.minimania.com/web/DisplayID/4...e//ArticleV.cfm

Also see the Telegizer site:
https://www.teglerizer.com/mgcolors/index.html
This lists colors with photo samples and paint codes for modern manufacturers.

OEW is there at the top of the list... (don't forget to scroll down). I was also told, but haven't confirmed, that OEW is a match for the current BMW MINI color "Pepper White".