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AH224414

AH224414

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Hello to All,

I am taking my BN1 100 back from my father after he let it sit on the street for 25 years (he said it was in the garage :madder: ).

When I went to pick it up, I found that three of the four wheels won't roll at ALL. My dad said he'd had the brake shoes resurfaced, and sometime after that the wheels stopped moving. They are stuck to the point that I had to winch the car onto the transport trailer and put it on wheel skates to move it into the garage.

EDIT: I backed out the adjustment screws all the way and even released the brake pressure by opening the bleed screws all the way. DUST came out - the brake system is COMPLETELY dry; no fluid at ALL (the reservoir is also dry).

Any ideas on how to get the drums off without damaging them?

As you might imagine, I <span style="font-weight: bold">really</span> don't want to have to replace them :cryin: .

Thanks!
 
Maybe AH224414
if:

You back the adjusters all the way off then strike the drums with a rubber mallet it may get them loose.Additionally sometimes flooding the drums with water will help loosen them.--Fwiw-Keoke
 
Keoke said:
Maybe AH224414
if:

You back the adjusters all the way off then strike the drums with a rubber mallet it may get them loose.Additionally sometimes flooding the drums with water will help loosen them.--Fwiw-Keoke
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Won't that just rust 'em on better ? :lol:
 
You could try putting "CLR" in a spray bottle and soak'em real good. I have the drums,rotors and hubs off and put them all in a big bin full of a 50/50 mix of CLR & H2o. I let them soak for about48 hrs and I can't believe how nice they came out. Figured I might as well clean and paint what I can while it's off anyway. Maybe at full strength it could help break yours loose.
 
richberman said:
Keoke said:
Maybe AH224414
if:

You back the adjusters all the way off then strike the drums with a rubber mallet it may get them loose.Additionally sometimes flooding the drums with water will help loosen them.--Fwiw-Keoke
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Won't that just rust 'em on better ? :lol:
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No it softens the rust and may let you break it loose--Keoke
 
Maybe try Keoke's idea only with CLR instead of the water. That stuff is great. My wife's stash will never be safe again.
 
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CLR That is a good Idea Donny_L-------Keoke-- :thumbsup:
 
:iagree: Just don't let any sit on the concrete for too long with out rinsing or you'll be sorry. Mr. Learn By Doing. --elrey
 
Two interesting things you mentioned that stimulated my thoughts. First, you indicated that your father had the brake shoes resurfaced prior to the car’s long sleep. I would also assume that if the shoes were done, the drum surfaces were at least cleaned up and maybe even turned to clean metal.

These two factors, when combined with long-term pressure and temperature/humidity set up the perfect conditions for molecular migration. This condition has more commonly been experienced when stored car clutch plates fuse into the flywheel and pressure plate. In short, along with rust, your brake shoe material may have molecularly fused (or welded) themselves into the drums.

In order to break the weld, you may have to heat the drums and will need to use a lever (possibly attached via the lugs) to turn the drums free. It is likely that banging will also be needed. If you use a wheel puller on the drum, I would suggest you disconnect the slave cylinders and adjuster from the brake pipes and backing plate so they can move out with the shoes and drum.

Good luck,
Ray (64BJ8P1)
 
You could try spraying in a release oil, like WD40, the linings will be shot anyway and you can easily clean up the drums <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Click to reveal.. <input type="button" class="form-button" value="Show me!" onclick="toggle_spoiler(this, 'Yikes, my eyes!', 'Show me!')" />]<div style="display: none;">if [/QUOTE]</div>when they eventually come off.

You could also try the wooden mallet technique after using the oil, tapping the drums from the rear and then the front to try and loosen them up. :hammer:

Bob
 
Guess ya don't visit your Dad much?
 
Don't know anything about CLR but the soaking method Keoke mentioned works for me. I cheap sometimes and use old gas that I have removed from tanks. It gets into places the water doesn't. Rinse it off before you tap with hammer.

Marv
 
CLR= calcium,Lime and RUST remover. It's found in any hardware or grocerie store by the cleaning products. I got the idea from a post on the car care/restoration thread of the forum.
 
:savewave: Better crank up some Malo, like Pana, and treat em like timbales! :yesnod: --elrey [don't think Suavecito's gonna cut it.]
 
rac68, on a bn2 that sat in a "pool" for about 40 years i hammered and chipped all the rust off that i could then sprayed all with every lube i cold get my hands on, after a couple of days i heated the exterior of the drums to the point of near glowing then employed various levers and a select number of striking devices. :yesnod:... o.k. now heeeers keoke! :jester:
 
o.k. now heeeers keoke! :jester:


----------------------------------------Keoke-- :savewave:
 
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