Warning on light bulbs

[bugimike]

This video is presented as a cautionary measure since so many are not aware of the dangers and ramifications. It is in no-way intended to be political, and I do not wish to start a political discussion on the blame-game!!

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[vagt6]

In fact, it IS political, clearly. What else could it be?

Not a great idea to post this stuff here, methinks.

The boss may not like . . .

 

[martx-5]

I've put several of these CFL bulbs around the house. I hate the color they give off. The ones in my breezeway ceiling take a good thirty seconds to get up to full brightness, and they DON'T last as long as they say they are supposed to. Besides that, they are expensive. As they burned out, I replaced with incandescent. Instant on. A color temperature that is pleasing, and a cost I can live with. You can bet your sweet bippy that I will start to horde incandescents before the 2014 ban. Hopefully I can stockpile enough to last for the few years I have left! I believe that incandescents are already banned in Australia.

 

[TRDejaVu]

Supposedly, they burn out quicker if they are only on for a couple of minutes and then turned off; that means they are no good for a number of household applications. I have one older CFL that takes about 20 seconds to come up to full brightness, but the latest ones I bought are much quicker. I have also seen them with different color temperatures, just like incandescents.

As with many "new" ideas, there is no such thing as a free lunch and the mercury content appears to be the Achilles Heel of this one.

 

[angelfj1]

I'm not crazy about them either, but they are available in conventional(cool)and warm colour temp. Trivial point, the original compact were developed by GE at Nela Park , Ohio.

 

[GregW]

There are certain technologies I like to skip over. The fax machine is a good example and I think the Compact fluorescent is another one. I've been messin' around with LEDs and it may be time to start making something for the home.

 

[DrEntropy]

Makes SOOO much more sense, Greg.

 

[Steve_S]

Those bulbs bother my eyes. I will never use them. LED is a far better solution. I'm already using LED lighting in television camera work now and then, and before too long they will be standard equipment for small lighting setups in that industry.

 

[aerog]

I hate to be contrary but I like 'em, sort of. I <span style="font-style: italic">hate</span> yellow incandescent bulbs. I also don't like normal "green" fluorescents though - I have a single 13-watt CFL in my desk lamp, supposedly the light output is close to that of a typical 75-watt bulb. It's supposed to be close to "daylight" balanced, and the last time I checked my colorometer read it at 5600k, it's supposed to be a 5000k bulb. It comes on instantly, but there is a short warm-up period before it is "full bore" (15-20 seconds usually).

 

[Basil]

I hate to be contrary but I like 'em, sort of. I <span style="font-style: italic">hate</span> yellow incandescent bulbs.

Lucky for you that its not the one's you hate that you are being forced to use.

 

[Basil]

<span style="color: #3366FF">NOTE: I have replaced the original video, which had useful information but which was also presented by a political figure, hence political by default, with a self-made video that just states (some of) the facts. We can have this discussion about these bulbs, which it appears we will all be forced to use, so long as we don't bring politics into the discussion.

Basil </span>

 

[TR6oldtimer]

CFL's strobe and should not be used in areas with rotating machinery. The strobe effect can make the rotating object look stationary or moving slower then it actually is. Try one with a bench grinder.

 

[aerog]

I hate to be contrary but I like 'em, sort of. I <span style="font-style: italic">hate</span> yellow incandescent bulbs.

Lucky for you that its not the one's you hate that you are being forced to use.

I don't think anyone should be forced to use either one :wink:

 

[Basil]

CFL's strobe and should not be used in areas with rotating machinery.

I have also read that they can cause health issues for some people, such as migraine headaches, eye strain and even seizures in some cases in people with Epilepsy. My daughter-in-law to be suffers from the type of epilepsy in which she is sensitive to strobing lights.

 

[GregW]

, and before too long they will be standard equipment for small lighting setups in that industry.

The "behind the scenes" crew on our movie is using an LED lighting package. I've also seen LED grids used to light sets on a couple movies now. They're very cool (in more ways than one). Nothing like walking in front of a 18,000 watt light.

Lumileds have come out with cool, neutral and warm white LEDs for home and office. Their cool white K2 series crank out 200 lumens @1amp around 3.5 volts.

 

[TR6oldtimer]

CFL's in a drop light? Could be interesting.

 

[Banjo]

Flourecent drop lights (or shop lights, or trouble lights depending on what you call em) are pretty much the norm in the auto shop world. Good amount of light, still warm but you don't get burned like with incandecent bulbs, and they tend to live through most drops.
But more and more LEDs are gaining ground, and they are even better.
Most of the LED lights are cordless because the batteries will last for a good long time.
I will NEVER use an incendecant drop light again (unless it's a neccesity). I HATE them. I personally use my cordless LED light about 80 percent of the time. I use the flourecent corded one if I need a constant light source for an extended time.
In my house is another story. I've been looking into lighting the whole place with low voltage LEDs. Take that electric company! hehehehe
I don't care for those compact flourecents either. and in light of those safety precautions, I like them even less.

 

[angelfj1]

I don't understand all the concern. We have had fluorescent lighting since the 1940's. How many of you have conventional fluorescent "tubes" in your kitchens, bathrooms and workshops/basements. Does the EPA suggest the same rigorous attention to cleanup if you break one of those. Each one of those have much more mercury in them. I just counted. I have eight, twin tube, 4ft fixtures in the shop. That's 16 reasons to worry? Not me.

Question. Do led's contain any toxic or otherwise hazardous materials?

 

[bugimike]

Thanks for switching the video boss (in which you very neatly gave all pertinent warnings :wink: !!), I was not aware of a non-political alternative. My main point in posting was to warn of the inherent dangers of the toxicity of these bulbs and disposal problems created by them as well as the fact that they are ALL manufactured in and imported from China!! Many of us have ranted about the inferior and dangerous products that are flooding our markets from there, and I wanted to point out and warn of another example and our lack of a domestically-produced alternative!!!!

Though the video I posted was a CSPAN video of Senate debate, I would like to point out that while a Republican made the presentation, a fellow senator, a Democrat, sat behind him in full agreement with what was being said! I did not think this was a partisan or political issue, hence my introduction and warning not to take it there! Once again I appologise for treading on thin ice!! :blush:

Good question on the LEDs, FJA, I too would like to know (they are solid-state are they not? Breakage may not even be a problem with them, but perhaps disposal is!) since they would seem to offer a viable alternative (my Special Forces flashlight I keep in the car puts out ample light and it seems that the color of the light from LEDs can be tailored in many hues!)

 

[Basil]

I don't understand all the concern.

My concern is being forced to use a type of bulb that "I" do not want to use. That is my concern...the hazards of the mercury are just a bit ironic in my humble opinion.