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After getting re educated to the Vista Ultimate OP system, it's showing some promise. I finally figured how to shut down some of the features I don't need, or want, but yet, keep some of the security features needed. The new mail program is much nicer than the older Microsoft Express. I do like the added security features in it. Seems they plugged more holes,(for now anyway)! I wouldn't buy Vista to put in my other machines as the requirements for the system are too high. I have Linux core in one machine now and like it for it's speed. Speeds up the old computer very well. ME in the lap top. Hmm, serves it's purpose and I won't change it. Just throwing out some thoughts. PJ