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Ultra-rare English Cadillac Centurion, Anyone?

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kinda looks like a Citroen to me
 
Looks remarkably similar to the Citroen DS sedans I used to see all over Europe when I lived in Germany as a kid. I always thought it was the ugliest car ever made ( the AMC Pacer coming in a close second).
 
As the seller has a 0 history, and the description is so sparse ... I think the poor guy just mis-spelled Citroen.

Details, details ...
 
Don't ham it up Bas.
 
"This is a collectable 1972 centurion(english cadillac). It has a 4 speed manual tramission with shifter on the column. This car also has a crank start in the front. It runs good. It is a 4 door, grey primer collectable. It is all original. Needs Restoring"

Now, just to make sure I hadn't forgotten my High School French, I checked on line translators....and Centurion in French does NOT translate to english cadillac, or, conversely, for people from South Carolina, Cadillac (in English).
I would love to see a Tramission sometime.
But the real interesting part is "grey primer collectable. It is all original.". I suppose by the time this POS was built, the French had run out of money for actual top coat paint, so, originally it came in grey primer.
Amazing.
 
if my memory serves me right it came with hydropneumatic suspension,headlights that turned with the front wheels . I had a Quebec couple break down outside my door a lot of years ago in one of them and the shift linkage where it came out of the firewall had a ball and socket joint that had popped apart, I popped it back in and squeezed the ball shut with a pair of vice grips and sent them happily on their way.
 
LOL They actually DID list it as a Caddy, and it's listed as "English!" That's funny. These old Citroens were a hoot. My dad almost bought one (in, was it, about 1969). As I vaguely recall, the steering wheel had a single, swept step; and the suspension on these was bouncy bouncy. Ah, the French. :congratulatory:
 
I drove one with the Maserati engine that belonged to a cousin. Definitely a different kind of car, but it was fast.

If you look at the Jay Leno's XK-E thread, you'll see a couple of them in the garage.
 
They were ugly to most of us, but one thing for sure, they had a ride that no car I know of could compete against. That is if the suspension was in good condition. Had a ride in one many years ago and was amazed at how smooth it rode and how quiet it was. I was always fascinated though by the one spoke steering wheel, it was quite flexible. The car would actually lower it's self when the engine was shut down, for ease of entry I guess. I would not want to replace the suspension on one! I have no idea why someone would call it a Cadillac! PJ
 
I thought they lowered themselves when you shut them off because the suspension control was badly leaking.
 
Isn't it obvious? it must be a model equipped with a "Cadillac Converter".
Ducks and runs...........:chuncky:
 
Caught a ride in a Citroen in Germany in '69. It was being tested and written about by an American automotive writer whose name I can no longer remember. The difference between that Citroen and a normal one, was that this one had a rotary engine installed by the factory. It was pretty quick and fast on the autobahn. Apparently Citroen decided to pass on the rotary and it wasn't long, ISTR, until Mazda came out with a rotary sedan.
 
That's one o' them South Carolinian Cadillacs.
Don could explain it.....

- Doug
 
I know someone who actually restored one. Then drove the thing from Florida to Maine and back... we politely refer to him as "eccentric" in mixed company. :smirk:
 
The DS19 and later DS21 Citroens were extraordinarily advanced, let down somewhat by their rather pedestrian 1.9 underpowered 4-banger. They had hydropneumatic self-levelling suspension with adjustable ride height, and power everything, all hydraulic. If the hydraulic system leaked, too bad!
Their ride quality was amazing, and bearing in mind they came out in the mid-50s, when many more streets in Paris and other French cities were cobbled than is the case today, and the cobbles were much more uneven, was a miracle.

DS is pronounce "dayess" in French, which sounds like Déesse, or Goddess.
 
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