Wedge TR8 starter dead spot?

[sabot]

Hi All, went to a club meeting the other night. Cool evening,
a little rain. Parked the car for about 3/4 hours, and when I came out to start it all i got was a click.
Had power to the lights, radio, fan, all that stuff but when I turned the key, click.
Any idea's? Dead spot? Gounds looked good.
Time for a new starter? If so where?
Thanks Tom

 

[GBRandy]

So...you wait a moment and try again and Viola! It works?

That's what mine did about 6 years ago. Mine was original so I just pulled it and replaced it with a gear reduction one.

I am certain someone could trace the issue to bad solenoid, dead spots on the armatures, etc. For me it wasn't worth it so I have no idea what the actual cause was. I just know that the new starter has fixed it completely.

 

[tdskip]

Have you tried cleaning and then tightening all the connections?

 

[sabot]

I tried cleaning and tightening the connections, but I couldn't.
They were already nice and clean and nice and tight.
Ok, new starter, best place for one?
Tom

 

[Mickey Richaud]

Tom -

Look for a Range Rover starter. Bolt-in fitment, much lighter, and more efficient. Should be lots of them on ebay, or available at Autozone, etc.

Mickey

 

[sabot]

Any specific year, model, or engine size?
Tom

 

[starauto]

Hi Tom

If you like to keep your original starter. You can send it in to my shop. The type of problem your experiencing is typical with this type of starter, because it uses a frontal type comutator and the brushes ride front side the armature develops flat spot and that is the reason why the starter just cilck. We install brand new aramtures to solve this problem plus additional new parts.
This is the description of the starter from our web site:
Product number: 25724
STARTER (Remanufacured)

1978-81 Triumph TR8. 1978 Morgan Plus 8. 1980 LandRover 3500 This starter is supplied with a new armature, which is the primary cause of starter failure. New solenoid, remanufactured drive, new brushes and bushings. Core Charge $100.00

Best Regards,
Mike
Star Auto Electric
www.starautoelectric.com

 

[Mickey Richaud]

Any specific year, model, or engine size?
Tom

Early 90's - should also find 'em at AutoZone, Advance, etc.

 

[Mickey Richaud]

Hi Tom

If you like to keep your original starter. You can send it in to my shop. The type of problem your experiencing is typical with this type of starter, because it uses a frontal type comutator and the brushes ride front side the armature develops flat spot and that is the reason why the starter just cilck. We install brand new aramtures to solve this problem plus additional new parts.
This is the description of the starter from our web site:
Product number: 25724
STARTER (Remanufacured)

1978-81 Triumph TR8. 1978 Morgan Plus 8. 1980 LandRover 3500 This starter is supplied with a new armature, which is the primary cause of starter failure. New solenoid, remanufactured drive, new brushes and bushings. Core Charge $100.00

Best Regards,
Mike
Star Auto Electric
www.starautoelectric.com

Mike -

Good to have you on board. Have you considered becoming a sponsoring vendor? Click on the link "Supporting Vendors" to the left of the screen for details!

Mickey

 

[Basil]

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[starauto]

Sorry, I just was trying to help a member. Did not know I was breaking any rules.

Mike

 

[tr8todd]

Discovery 94-99
Discovery Series II 99-04
Range Rover Classic 87-95
Range Rover 4.0 95-02
Range Rover 4.6 95-02
Defender 90 94-97
Defender 110 93

 

[sabot]

Thanks, I'll order one when I get to work. (the benifits of being a parts clerk).
Tom

 

[71MKIV]

If you find yourself in that situation, a "get home" sometimes solution is to give the starter a sharp rap with a hammer.
All of my cars have a non marring plastic faced hammer in the tool kit for just such situations.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it don't. But if it does.....

 

[sabot]

thanks, i keep a marring hammer in my spitty.
looks like i can get a rebuilt unit or a used on at work out of 2000 Discovery.
tom

 

[sabot]

arrrg! I have to remove the "cat" to get the starter off?
just read the service manual.
tom

 

[WedgeWorks]

You do not need to remove the cat! It has to be flip/rotated and it will come out!

 

[GBRandy]

I never removed the cat either. But as Michael says, you need to twist, turn, flip and rotate the thing to get it lined up in such a way as to slide it out from the car. Putting the new one back in is equally exciting.

You have practiced connecting wire terminals with your eyes closed right?

 

[tr8todd]

Mike, I think that only works with the smaller gear reduction starter and or with headers. It gets pretty tight with the cats in there and the big ole factory starter.

 

[WedgeWorks]

I was able to remove the starter/starters at Wedge Shop with the cats on the stoskers.