Nah, these were in cars I bought over the years. I would usually pull the existing radio out and put in a new radio. Or the car was so rusty or wreaked so bad that I parted out the car. One of my car club buddies who is a electronics whiz, saw the pile I had and asked if he could go thru them and see which ones are good. I think there were 7 or 8 good ones. He got one for his troubles. I used a couple of them in my cars. One had lots of chrome trim, it looks very good in the A/H3000.
Marv