TR2/3/3A TR3A Glove Box Attachment

[angelfj1]

Im looking for details, either photos or drawings that show how the cardboard glove box is attached to the lip of the fascia opening. I received the box and mounting hardware from the Roadster Factory, but no mounting details were provided. Several oval headed, chrome plated screws, washers and lock washers were included. The parts manual lacks detail and my 3A never had a glove box. I imagine that the old one rotted away decades before my ownership. Also, should the screws which attach the glove box door hinge serve double duty and provide additional connection to the glove box itself?

Thanks

 

[Adrio]

If I recall (it was 25 years ago) those screws go through the bent in part of the dash and through the glove box itself as well.

You might also want to ask for pictures of the little matal tab that goes at the back of the glove box.

 

[TR4nut]

Frank-

Not sure how accurate this is, but here is a link to a nice TR3 I've admired previously which shows the glove box pretty well: Nice TR3

Randy

 

[angelfj1]

Randy: WOW, what a beauty. The photo will help

thanks

 

[Moseso]

Frank --
That is a good picture of the front attachment. The two screws up from the bottom of the dash go through spire nuts clipped to the lower front edge of the box and, of course, the box itself. There is also a bracket on back of the dash, near the center top front edge of the box. A screw up through the box goes into a spire nut clipped to that bracket. At the rear, there is an L bracket that bolts to the dash support, and has a spire nut clipped on to it. A screw goes from the inside rear of the glove box, into the spire nut on that bracket.

 

[martx-5]

I would suggest that you get the "L" bracket in the back loosely fitted to dash suppot with it's spire nut in place. Put the box in position (with the spire nuts attached to the front. Then start the back screw in the the "L" bracket spire nut. A longer then standard screw helps here. Position the front section bending and contorting the box as neccessary to screw in the front up from the bottom of the dash. Tighten the back screw and bracket and you're done. If you don't have that rear bracket loosely in place before you start, you may never be able to get it in there.

Edit: Remember, that the spire nuts on the front of the box must have the "treaded" section facing up so it clamps the box to the dash.

 

[angelfj1]

Thank you everyone for the great recommendations!!!

 

[Geo Hahn]

...here is a link to a nice TR3 I've admired previously which shows the glove box pretty well: Nice TR3

Nice indeed -- but isn't it odd that when pictured with a hardtop it is a TR2 and when shown with a soft top it turns into a TR3.

Certainly appears to be the same car apart frorm the apron & grille.

 

[TR4nut]

Geo-

Well spotted, hadn't noticed it before - makes me wonder what differences actually exist between a TR2 and TR3 front valance.


Randy

 

[TR3driver]

Not sure how accurate this is, but here is a link to a nice TR3 I've admired previously which shows the glove box pretty well: Nice TR3

Cool! It also shows a method for attaching a front sway bar without modifying the bumper brackets. I'll have to consider that for my TR3.

Thanks, Randy!

 

[Russ Austin]

...here is a link to a nice TR3 I've admired previously which shows the glove box pretty well: Nice TR3

Nice indeed -- but isn't it odd that when pictured with a hardtop it is a TR2 and when shown with a soft top it turns into a TR3.

Certainly appears to be the same car apart frorm the apron & grille.

I have seen pictures of this beautiful car many times and never caught 56, 57 grill to the TR2 grill. Good one George!

 

[Moseso]

Cool! It also shows a method for attaching a front sway bar without modifying the bumper brackets. I'll have to consider that for my TR3.

Thanks, Randy!

So, he didn't have to drill through the bumper brackets -- he drilled into the frame. You'd really rather do that??

 

[Adrio]

Two things. I just was looking through the TRF glove box companion from 1996 (it seems to have survived in some office junk that was packed away and about to be thrown out) and noticed that they have a great picture/drawing of the glove box and all the attachement harware with its location. If they still have that drawing available it would be good for you. I would offer to scan it but there are copyright issues I assume.

As to the sway bar, can't one use the same plate that goes on the front of a TR4 and mount to that. No drilling of either needed then? Here is a picture of my TR4A setup
https://ca.geocities.com/adrio@rogers.com/Tr4/tr4pics/frontsway.jpg
to see what I mean.

 

[TR3driver]

So, he didn't have to drill through the bumper brackets -- he drilled into the frame. You'd really rather do that??

Uh, no. The problem is that the brackets it mounts to do not exist on a TR3; only on TR3A/B. The bumper brackets on a TR2/3 are long pieces of curved flat iron, with the flat part vertical so there's no place to attach the sway bar brackets to them. So some fabrication (welding) is required to create a mounting point for the sway bar brackets. My lack of welding skills and desire for the sway bar were considerations in keeping the 3A front apron on the project '3. But someday I hope to convert it back to a smallmouth.

But now that I think about it, under the frame might not be the best place for those brackets anyway. Drilling the frame doesn't bother me (that's the way the rear bar is mounted on the 3A), but ground clearance may be an issue (especially when I get some fat low profile tires on). So I guess I'd better learn to weld after all :laugh:

 

[Moseso]

Ah, so...
I hadn't remembered that your project was a small-mouth, with no bumper brackets. Well, different ones, I mean...