I know what you mean Carl--- my tr3 scared me for life. The last time I replaced them, I had the tub off, and it was not too bad because I could heat up the bolt and drive it out of the sleeve to the outside of the car. If you do have a broken spring, the forum will be a helpful source because I would say those bolts come out friendly, like the Hanes manual suggests only about 10% of the time. Most times, it I basically cocktail of methods along with reinventing something like the wheel; they are very inspiring for new mechanical ideas.